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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

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    Votes: 56 47.9%
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    Votes: 61 52.1%

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Elsewhere, over 100 Labour MPs are ‘undecided’ on the assisted dying bill. This astounds me. I’m probably looking at this the wrong way, but I think it’s a matter of principle - either you think people should have the right to choose to end their life under certain circumstances or you don’t. The practicalities, safeguards, costs etc are separate issues. I’d expect any self respecting ‘representative of the people’ to have a pretty clear and well thought through position on this, even if I personally might disagree with them. Of course, as 70% of the British public are in favour of assisted dying voting against it is the opposite of representing your constituents, but that’s ‘representative’ democracy for you.

For those ‘undecided’ MPs - just do what the majority of your constituents want, do yourselves a favour. Nearly all Lib Dem’s have been able to declare in favour, with only Ed Davey being against. Not sure on the Tories.

I don’t think it’s going to get through.

People should petition their MPs on this issue. I have.
 
People should petition their MPs on this issue. I have.
I’m going direct to my MP, rather than via a campaign group, as I have no idea how she (a Lib Dem’s) will vote, although if the press is to be believed it will be in favour.

Have a bad feeling about it though.
 
I’m going direct to my MP, rather than via a campaign group, as I have no idea how she (a Lib Dem’s) will vote, although if the press is to be believed it will be in favour.

Have a bad feeling about it though.
Yeah, me too. Streeting should have kept his mouth shut.
 
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I remember similar scare stories when Labour (Brown) last intervened in Pension Reform and the World of (Company) Defined Benefit Pension Schemes didn’t come to an end ….. oh, hang on … <ok>

Seems like we will have to agree to disagree <cheers>

Anyway, Wales are playing Turkey on S4C <cheers>

Yeah, Tesco have to pay £250m. Good.
 
More self-service checkout machines and fewer staff to save on Employers’ NI? Not so good.

Increased prices for customers? Not so good

Less profit for exploitative employers, who could easily absorb the increase. Good.

I expect the bullshit pension funds argument next.
 
Less profit for exploitative employers, who could easily absorb the increase. Good.

I expect the bullshit pension funds argument next.
It won’t be a lower profit, I suspect that the employees and the customers will cover the cost.

What pension fund argument?
 
It won’t be a lower profit, I suspect that the employees and the customers will cover the cost.

What pension fund argument?

Normally, when anyone suggests that massive companies should have their profits curtailed in any way (like paying a bit of tax), those of a right wing persuasion suggest that this shouldn't happen because pensions funds invest in them and this could harm pensioners. Just another bullshit 'don't tax wealth' argument.
 
Normally, when anyone suggests that massive companies should have their profits curtailed in any way (like paying a bit of tax), those of a right wing persuasion suggest that this shouldn't happen because pensions funds invest in them and this could harm pensioners. Just another bullshit 'don't tax wealth' argument.
Whoever argues that clearly doesn’t understand fully UK Pension Schemes<cheers>
 
Farmers, what the ****? So the beneficiaries of your multi-million pound estates might have to pay half the inheritance tax that everyone else would be liable for.

Boo-****ing-hoo.
 
Sleepy Joe finally gives Ukraine the opportunity to waive the big stick and assist hem maintaining their Kursk incursion, and hopefully wipe out the 10,000 porn addicted North Korean troops shoring up the Russian presence there. On the subject of Bden he looks really good and relaxed at the Brazil Summit, venturing out into the rain forest.

Who needs an Oval Office when you have a nice signing table in the Rain Forest

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Sleepy Joe finally gives Ukraine the opportunity to waive the big stick and assist hem maintaining their Kursk incursion, and hopefully wipe out the 10,000 porn addicted North Korean troops shoring up the Russian presence there. On the subject of Bden he looks really good and relaxed at the Brazil Summit, venturing out into the rain forest.

Who needs an Oval Office when you have a nice signing table in the Rain Forest

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You genuinely want 10,000 men (and presumably all the Russian men who have been explicitly recruited/press ganged as canon fodder) who have probably had miserable, brain washed, lives, to be ‘wiped out’? These are real human beings, none of them created this situation. They are dupes, patsies, victims. Want to revise your post?

Great that Biden doesn’t have to take any consequences for his decision, because he’s gone.
 
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You genuinely want 10,000 men (and presumably all the Russian men who have been explicitly recruited/press ganged as canon fodder) who have probably had miserable, brain washed, lives, to be ‘wiped out’? These are real human beings, none of them created this situation. They are dupes, patsies, victims. Want to revise your post?

Great that Biden doesn’t have to take any consequences for his decision, because he’s gone.

Most russian troops sign up voluntarily. If they're not stopped they'll rape/murder innocent Ukrainians.
 
Oi, farmers. get orf moi land!
Collectivise them now!

Hard to feel sorry for people who moan on about how hard their lives are, how little money they make, how fragile their mental health is and who simultaneously want to condemn their kids to the same miserable life through inheritance, and who just assume that their offspring will want to follow in their muddy footsteps.
 
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Collectivise them now!

Hard to feel sorry for people who moan on about how hard their lives are, how little money they make, how fragile their mental health is and who simultaneously want to condemn their kids to the same miserable life through inheritance, and who just assume that their offspring will want to follow in their muddy footsteps.

The likes of Dyson and Clarkson had bought farm land specifically to avoid inheritance tax. Despite Clarkson's cuddly TV programme, I don't imagine he actually spends that much time on his farm, and I'd be surprised if his children would want to take it on. It's just 'tax planning' and Clarkson is now whining about this particular loophole being partially closed.

Still, Nick Griffin thinks he's right.