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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
Stroller said:
Perhaps this system is in use within the EU and not in the UK. Should it be the responsibility of the EU to provide infrastructure in our ports?

It's almost as if all those trumpeting the desirability of ending free movement thought that it wouldn't apply to us.
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The article refers to the UK. It's an automated system and there's no need for wet stamping. That's why the British government is threatening to respond in kind. There are plenty of EU lorries coming into the UK that would be messed up if we did.

The biometric checks are different. That's a new security issue, not Brexit, and may take more time to pass through, at least during implimentation. Travellers need to be aware of this.
 
sb_73 said:
Have you been to Europe recently? Since May, when this system was meant to be in place, I’ve had my passport stamped in the Netherlands, Germany and Greece. Once you are in the EU, ie through immigration in the country you arrive at, there are no checks moving from country to country in the Schengen area.

The 90 out of 180 days thing has to be tracked somehow.
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It's perfectly possible to track travellers by recording their details on computer. That's what the article is saying. It's now automated.
 
Goldhawk-Road said:
It's perfectly possible to track travellers by recording their details on computer. That's what the article is saying. It's now automated.
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Yeah it’s possible. I wonder why so few places do it. Japan, US, Canada, Australia all ‘wet stamp’ in my pretty recent experience, at least for visitors.

Anyway, at least we have established that it’s not just the French in the EU who do it.

Nearly everyone arriving in the U.K. from ‘rich’ countries can go through the automated gates with U.K. citizens. As a consequence the queues at these gates, which are not fully automated, still require staff to view the scans, are now much longer than at the old traditional immigration booths. In my experience.
 
sb_73 said:
Yeah it’s possible. I wonder why so few places do it. Japan, US, Canada, Australia all ‘wet stamp’ in my pretty recent experience, at least for visitors.

Anyway, at least we have established that it’s not just the French in the EU who do it.

Nearly everyone arriving in the U.K. from ‘rich’ countries can go through the automated gates with U.K. citizens. As a consequence the queues at these gates, which are not fully automated, still require staff to view the scans, are now much longer than at the old traditional immigration booths. In my experience.
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First, it would help if the French turned up for work in the booths.

It may not be just the French in the EU that are trying to make Brexit difficult. I didn't say it was. There's clearly an issue between the UK and French governments over the wet stamping issue and what had previously been agreed, hence the UK threatening tit for tat measures.

Australia doesn't wet stamp according to Wiki.
 
sb_73 said:
Have you been to Europe recently? Since May, when this system was meant to be in place, I’ve had my passport stamped in the Netherlands, Germany and Greece. Once you are in the EU, ie through immigration in the country you arrive at, there are no checks moving from country to country in the Schengen area.

The 90 out of 180 days thing has to be tracked somehow.
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The computer software for checking time spent in the EU was meant to be in place years ago. My understanding is that every time they have tried to implement it the whole system has crashed. Our own border control don’t expect to have a working system for some time yet.
Wet stamping for entries into the EU are in place to check time spent in the area but in reality nobody is going to check where you have been. This is a classic case of a deterrent being put in place to worry travellers into not breaking the laws.
 
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sb_73 said:
Have you been to Europe recently? Since May, when this system was meant to be in place, I’ve had my passport stamped in the Netherlands, Germany and Greece. Once you are in the EU, ie through immigration in the country you arrive at, there are no checks moving from country to country in the Schengen area.

The 90 out of 180 days thing has to be tracked somehow.
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What happens after 90 days
Do you have to sneak out in a dingy
 
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Goldhawk-Road said:
First, it would help if the French turned up for work in the booths.

It may not be just the French in the EU that are trying to make Brexit difficult. I didn't say it was. There's clearly an issue between the UK and French governments over the wet stamping issue and what had previously been agreed, hence the UK threatening tit for tat measures.

Australia doesn't wet stamp according to Wiki.
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