Off Topic The Politics Thread

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
Tories will have whittled down leadership hopefuls to two, in two weeks time apparently. Then it goes to the Tory faithful, and Parliament goes on holiday until early September
 
It's one thing for Brexiteers to tell him his time is over and a fresh start is needed, another to consider him one of the worst prime ministers in history.

He hated detail, was a very poor disciplinarian and was more economic with the truth than most politicians. But by calling a GE he wiped out the Soubrys, Umunnas and others that made a joke of democracy by trying to get a people's vote, alongside Starmer. He's got most of Brexit done, did well on the COVID vaccines and had Ukraine's back both politically and practically, when the Pygmy leaders in France and Germany wanted a deal with Russia for domestic purposes, despite that weak approach sending a dangerous message to China over Taiwan.

I think, beyond Ukraine where I agree, we're never going to agree on this one so I'll save us the back and forth :emoticon-0148-yes:
 
May lied her arse off over brexit.
She was also completely incompetent and weak.

She didn't lie as much as Boris, but then, no PM probably ever has.

Genuinely would be interested by what you mean about her lying over Brexit. I remember having clear red lines and being unwilling (or unable) to move from them, and not selling her deal well enough, but I can't remember what you mean by her lying.