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    don't think these trump supporters will be getting such a free ride in the future

    Anti-fascist protesters vandalize buildings in Portland and Seattle

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    (Reuters) - Anti-government and anti-fascist protesters in Portland and Seattle vandalized a Democratic Party office and other buildings and scuffled with police on Wednesday, protesting against President Joe Biden’s inauguration.

    People dressed in black and with their faces covered broke windows and the glass door at the Democratic Party of Oregon business office in Portland, spray-painting an anarchist symbol over the party sign, video posted on social media showed.

    “We don’t want Biden. We want revenge for police murders, imperialist wars, and fascist massacres,” read a banner they marched under.

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    The new Democratic president was sworn in on Wednesday, urging unity and restoration after Republican Donald Trump’s divisive tenure.

    Portland has been the scene of unrest for months, with civil rights, anarchist and anti-fascist protesters scuffling with police and occasionally with right-wing militias and Trump supporters.

    The protests began in the summer as part of nationwide demonstrations against racism and police brutality following the death of George Floyd, a Black man who died in Minneapolis in May after police pinned his neck to the ground for nearly nine minutes.

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    Eight people were arrested in Portland on suspicion of offenses including rioting and reckless burning, while two people were arrested in Seattle, one for assault and another for property damage, police said.

    Before descending on the Democratic Party office, some protesters from a group of about 150 scuffled with police on bicycles, police said in a statement.

    In Seattle, police said multiple sites had been vandalized and posted pictures of the damage, including what appeared to be of an Amazon Go store.
     
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    So you've basically admitted trolling all his posts.
     
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    Nearly 8,000 people have died in America today from COVID under Joe Biden’s leadership. This is just terrible.

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    Lockdown cycle lanes could now be ripped up across the UK after High Court ruled Sadiq Khan's 'Streetspace' scheme was UNLAWFUL and 'took advantage of the pandemic' to push through 'radical changes' to London's streets
    • Sadiq Khan criticised for 'superficial' and 'seriously flawed' planning by judge
    • Streetspace aimed to use pandemic to justify permanent changes, court found
    • A lawyer in the case said the scheme and others like it could now be scrapped
    • Cycle lanes and other schemes will stay pending Transport for London's appeal
    By Rory Tingle and James Robinson for MailOnline

    Published: 00:20 AEDT, 21 January 2021 | Updated: 05:04 AEDT, 21 Janu



    Lockdown cycle lanes could now be ripped up across the UK after the High Court ruled Sadiq Khan's 'Streetspace' scheme was unlawful.

    The controversial scheme, which saw roads closed and others narrowed to create new cycle lanes in the height of lockdown last year, was found to be 'seriously flawed' by a High Court judge today.

    The ruling means similar schemes implemented by councils up and down the country could now be scrapped, a lawyer in the case revealed.

    However bosses at Transport for London, who described the ruling as 'disappointing', insist they will keep the make-shift cycle lanes while they appeal today's damning judgment.

    It comes after Justice Lang ruled London's 'Streetspace' scheme was 'seriously flawed' and 'took advantage of the pandemic' to push through 'radical' and permanent changes to London's roads.

    The judgment follows a legal challenge by organisations representing black cab drivers who were angry about being banned from a new bus-only route on the A10 in Bishopsgate.

    Justice Lang said the A10 scheme treated cab drivers unfairly and should be abolished.

    But her judgment also called for an end to the Mayor's wider Streetspace initiative, including the introduction of several hundred miles of temporary cycle lanes.

    The lanes sparked criticism from motorists for increasing congestion, and one on Kensington High Street was removed late last year following a local outcry.

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    Sadiq Khan was today criticised for 'superficial' and 'seriously flawed' planning by a judge

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    Justice Lang said the A10 scheme treated cab drivers unfairly and should be abolished, but her judgment also called for an end to the Mayor's wider Streetspace initiative, including the introduction of temporary cycle lanes. Pictured is one on Euston Road

    In addition to cycle lanes, Streetspace - which was put in place last May - saw the implementation of bus gates, banned turns and restricted access to streets in Low Traffic Neighbourhoods across London with the aim of encouraging walking and cycling.

    In her judgement, Justice Lang called Streetspace an 'ill-considered response' which sought to 'take advantage of the pandemic to push through, on an emergency basis without consultation, 'radical changes' to London's streets.

    She added: 'The scale and ambition of the proposals, and the manner in which they were described, strongly suggest that the Mayor and TfL intended that these schemes would become permanent, once the temporary orders expired.

    'However, there is no evidence to suggest that there will be a permanent pandemic requiring continuation of the extreme measures introduced by the Government in 2020.'

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    Today's judgement follows a legal challenge by the Licensed Taxi Drivers Association (LTDA) and United Trade Action Group (UTAG) against the decision to ban cab drivers from the new Bishopsgate Bus Gate scheme.

    The scheme was part of plans to make the area one of the largest car-free zones in any capital city in the world.

    In the lengthy and detailed judgement, Mrs Justice Lang, underlined a series of failings by TfL and the Mayor, describing their decision-making process as 'seriously flawed', with the decision to exclude taxis being based on 'superficial' and 'inadequate evidence.'

    The judge noted that denying taxis access to London's roads could have 'severe consequences' for passengers who cannot walk, cycle, or use public transport and that 'the needs of people with protected characteristics, including the elderly or disabled', were 'not considered'.

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    A similar lane on Kensington High Street was removed following an outcry from motorists and local businesses

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    Mr Khan oversaw the rapid construction of a cycling network using temporary plastic bollards

    The court also highlighted the inadequacy of the Equalities Impact Assessment (EIA) undertaken by TfL, describing parts as 'perfunctory or non-existent' and finding that it 'read as if its purpose was to justify the decision already taken'.

    The judge also found taxi drivers had a legitimate expectation that they would be able to access bus lanes to ply for hire effectively, which had been unlawfully breached.

    This expectation was supported by TfL's own Bus Lane Policy, which asserts that taxis 'fulfil demands that cannot be met by the bus, train or tube', and by previous Mayoral statements on the importance of taxi access to bus lanes.

    Lawyers for the Defendants argued breaching this expectation was justified by the pandemic, but Justice Lang found it 'unfair and contrary to good administration to use the pandemic as a justification for restricting taxis access to bus lanes'.

    Finding the treatment of taxis was irrational, the Judge described excluding taxis as an 'ill-considered response', which 'sought to take advantage of the pandemic' to push through 'radical changes' which 'far exceeded what was reasonably required'.

    Steve McNamara, general secretary of the LTDA, said: 'It's fantastic to see the Judge rightly recognising the key role licensed taxis play in our great City.

    'This is an extremely important judgement for London's hard working taxi drivers and the passengers who rely on them.'

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    Today's judgement follows a legal challenge by the Licensed Taxi Drivers Association (LTDA) and United Trade Action Group (UTAG) against the decision to ban cab drivers from a new bus lane in Bishopsgate (pictured is the road shortly before the works were completed)

    Darren Rogers, of Chiltern Law, who acted on behalf of the claimants, said: 'This was a hard fought and complicated Judicial Review where the regulated took on the regulator and sets a precedent when authorities close roads without proper analysis and care.

    'Untramelled discretion must be scrutinised and reviewed. Mrs Justice Lang's judgement lays bare the unlawfulness of Streetspace as a plan and in practice.

    'This sets a very decent precedent for similar schemes being challenged in other parts of the country.'

    TfL said: 'We are disappointed with the court's ruling and are seeking to appeal this judgment.

    'Temporary Streetspace schemes are enabling safer essential journeys during this exceptionally challenging time and are vital to ensuring that increased car traffic does not threaten London's recovery from coronavirus.

    'We absolutely recognise the need for schemes such as our Bishopsgate corridor to work for the communities they serve and have worked hard to ensure that people across London, including those who use taxis, can continue to get to where they need to be.

    'We also recognise the need for schemes to be delivered in a fair and consistent manner and have worked closely with the boroughs to create clear guidance for implementing schemes, updating this regularly to reflect what we have learnt. These schemes will stay in place pending our appeal.'
     
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    This must be a serious issue for you.
     
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    stop pretending to be yoda
     
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    After such a shellacking from the judge you'd think Khan might get the message? Not a bit. How long before his next demand for another bailout?...
     
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    Hamilton doesn’t even live here yet he pays way more in tax in the U.K. than all of us put together and indeed Farage. Didn’t notice people kicking off then Mansell got a cbe. Do we disqualify any brits who live abroad?
     
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    Sir Anthony Hopkins get back here and stop dodging U.K. taxes... weird that was not the headline when he became a sir.

    Elizabeth Taylor you bitch!!! Stop dodging U.K. taxes you’re no dame of mine. No none of that either before her death.

    Becks back here you tax dodging squeaky voiced prick!!!


    Why were there not the same criticism of others who live abroad and don’t pay full U.K. taxes? It’s almost as though that isn’t the issue, it can’t be otherwise they’d be outrage every year to people who are honoured and don’t pay full U.K. taxes despite not earning that wage here...
     
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    that's because he had a dodgy tash
     
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    It might be because Liz Taylor and Tony Hopkins didn't moan about this weeks colour orange.
     
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    oh so it’s not about taxes that’s just bullshit and people are trying to hide their real agenda, and you’re calling anti racism this week’s orange, nice of you to clear it up.
     
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    Oh hang on...

    Elizabeth Taylor was a leader in AIDS activism, including her founding role in the American Foundation for AIDS

    She was a full blown activist so.....
     
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    So not about taxes, not about having a voice on certain subjects, unless of course you really have a problem with anti racism... can’t be about his sporting achievements as his record in his chosen sport is second to none....

    Why do myths have to be debunked before we get even close to people admitting their real objection to Lewis Hamilton. Why would people hide their reasons?
     
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