Off Topic The Politics Thread

What asylum seekers?

 

I think you're missing my point - very few brands owned by MNCs would actually post this as they are generally worried about potential fall out amongst consumers

I'm not criticising B&J for taking a stance

Whether the general public will see this as positive for the brand is another thing

 

Eh??

 

It’s quite refreshing that they’d be allowed to retain some of that identity. I wish the brands I work on belonging to an equally faceless multinational could/would do the same. Ultimately it gets people talking about them and the sort of people who are going to make a point of boycotting it now have Arctic roll for dessert anyway.

 

Anything to avoid the point, eh Stortford? Forget Patel's hypocrisy, what about the actual plight of the asylum seekers?

But then back to her hypocrisy - her own parents wouldn't have been allowed into the UK under her own immigration laws.

The most vocal opponents of immigration seem to be immigrants themselves. Pull up the drawbridge!

 

Avoiding what point? I'm genuinely confused

 

I have no idea what the solution is, Strolls, but am I correct in thinking that once these immigrants are in the EU they’re effectively safe?

I have no issue with the U.K. taking in asylum seekers and economic migrants, but surely most would agree that there’s a proper way to do it rather than sweep them from their rubber dinghies mid-Channel?

Sure, those that exploit them in providing dangerous and illegal means to get to our shores need to be held to account, but are we really saying that this is nonetheless an acceptable way to take them in?

As I said, I don’t have a solution, but I don’t think the present state of affairs is acceptable either.

 

When B&J launched over here I was working for a group of brands including arch rivals Haagen Dazs and B&J was seen to be the potential market disrupter

The guys that started B&J were very principled and there was a lot of smirking when they sold out to Unilever. The brand plateau'd for a while until Unilever made the sensible choice to try to reposition it back to what it has been before they bought it

 

Genuinely confused? You can't be that dense, surely.

Perhaps you are.

 

I clearly am....feel free to spell your point out in words of one syllable

 

If they apply for asylum, they're safe, but banged up in what I understand to be pretty unpleasant camps until their cases are heard. If they turn up and try to disappear, they're illegal immigrants and can be deported if caught. No easy rides.

Yes, the traffickers should be brought to book, but I just think the whole thing is a massive red herring. This government has caused untold unnecessary deaths with its Covid policies, will bring massive additional economic problems with its Brexit fiasco, and is wallowing in sleaze with its handing out of contracts to Tory chums, but hey! - look at that dead cat that just landed on the table!

 

Can't be arsed. How's that?

 

send em back to france

 

The Royal Navy will be sending two ships into the Channel later on today: HMS Premier Inn and HMS Taxi.

 

Classic whataboutery

 

It really isn’t. Governments around the world have used immigrant scare stories like this forever to enrage their people over something other than whatever they don’t want them to focus on. It’s such a non-issue in the grand scheme of what else is happening right now but it’s always been effective.

An economy in 20% decline... but forrens on boats!!!

 

It really is

So the government should just ignore the issue in your view?

 

I’m clearly not saying that so it’s a ****ing stupid question frankly.

I’m saying there are far bigger issues that should be front and centre of every news outlet. This is a convenient distraction that’s always there should the government wish to have people not focusing on something like today’s reporting of a massive GDP decline or the failure of track and trace.

Imagine if we had the highest excess deaths and the worst GDP decline simultaneously in Europe under a Labour government. A few dinghies crossing the channel would do well to make it into newspapers at all.

 

Ah...I understand now

It is the Tory controlled media working with the Tory government to distract the public's attention away from the economy, A level results, the hot weather...

Butthuber would be proud of your conspiracy theory

 

Do you not think it’s a bit odd that such an issue is commanding so much media attention when there’s so much else going on?

You forgot to mention the billions frittered away on contracts to companies linked to senior Tories. That’s a good one.