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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

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  2. Get out

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  1. Butthuber

    Butthuber Well-Known Member

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    COVID deaths have fallen in Britain by 96%. Even the number of people infected who are seeking some treatment fell from 17,000 per day to 700. The real question is why are governments escalating their authority? The blue states in the USA are clearly engaged in politics. Pennsylvania has gone completely nuts. If you have come into contact with anyone who has the virus and you fail to quarantine yourself for 14 days, they will basically arrest and imprison you for two weeks. Some German states are saying they can take your children if you have COVID. In Melbourn, Australia, they have created a 100% lockdown and an 8 PM curfew. They have turned the city into a prison camp. This entire response by governments is totally insane.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/covid-wards-empty-as-virus-death-toll-plunges-bvm0mxl2n

    This is becoming a totalitarian police state all over the world.
     
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  2. Stroller

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    There has been a massive over-reaction to this virus.
     
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  3. Butthuber

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    That is a very good starting point.You will have to answer yourself the following questions:

    - Why has there been a massive over-reaction world wide ?
    - Why do politians still want us to wear masks ?
    - Why are politians so anxious keeping us locked in instead of acknowledging their "mistake" and trying to do everything to safe the Economy ?
    - Why working on a vaccine that changes your RNA (genetic material) - this new vaccine will be totally different from the one´s we use today ?
    - Why still locking away the eldery ?
    - Why destroying all the pleasures in life (Pubs, Bars, Restaurants, Cinema, Theatre etc.) ?
    - Why do the polititians call it the "new" normal ?

    I do understand that it is hard to believe that this has been fabricated and organized a long time ago but everyone of us will have to compare what media & politians tells us with what is really happening - just common sense. Just please invest some minutes (minutes 4:00 - 10:00) in the following video and you will see that everything is just an utter lie.

     
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    I really don't want to discuss your outlandish theories, Butthuber. I believe that there has been a massive over-reaction, but that it's cock-up rather than conspiracy.

    By the way, eating less meat and polluting the planet less would be good things in my opinion.
     
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    Don't feed the troll.
     
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    Gavin Williamson making a complete prick of himself trying to explain the exam results cock-ups, how do these knobs get into such important roles?...<doh>
     
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    I've missed big Ruth - I'm no fan of the Tories, but she is a great politician and will be missed when she walks away next year (except by the SNP)
     
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    Nice to see the English education authorities are in as much of a.shambles as the SNP are up here with regards to exam results! Way to go to **** up thousands of kids futures in one fell swoop.
     
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    His inexperience does show doesn’t it? It was the same when he was defence secretary.
     
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  10. Butthuber

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    I do respect that Stroller even though I do have a lot of proof for they are transforming the world into police states.

    Just keep ignoring me that should be fine.
     
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  11. Butthuber

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    Replacement Migration’ is an official published plan to deliberately bring in at least 56 million people from mostly Africa to Europe by 2050. It’s a very real policy that’s already been planned by both the UN and EU since at least the year 2000 – a policy carried out under the auspices of various inter connected globalist agencies and ‘Non Governmental agencies’ such as the International Organisation for Migration, Global Migration Group, The Africa-EU Partnership, World Bank and the cult of international sustainable development also known as Agenda 21/2030 Agenda.
    Mass enforced immigration is recognised by the UN itself as an incitement to genocide as defined by the United Nations even though the UN themselves as well as the EU are proponents of the Replacement Migration plan.

    On December 19th 2018 a worldwide agreement called The Global Compact for Migration was also signed in Marakesh. It essentially gives equal rights to all migrants from across the world to migrate to anywhere they want, whether they are legal or not. The agreement was put in place by the UN and, for all intents and purposes, outlaws any sctrutinising or questioning of the plan or of the immigrants themselves by those countries who have signed or by media groups or press within those countries. In the finest Orwellian tradition, any public funding for these press and media groups is recommended to be stopped if they stray from the narrative or ask ‘difficult’ questions when it come to immigration.

    Luckily, not all countries have signed this grubby globalist plan. 152 countries voted in favour of the resolution to endorse it, while the United States, Hungary, Israel, Czech Republic and Poland voted against it, and 12 countries including Australia, Switzerland, Chile, Brazil, Estonia, Italy, Bulgaria, Dominican republic and Latvia abstained. 24 countries didn’t vote at all and many of the countries who have signed may yet change their minds. A petition of 130,000 signatures to the UK parliament asking for a parliamentary discussion on the matter was ignored even though the parliament is obliged to discuss any petition with over 100,000 signatures.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/65628/Secret-plot-to-let-50million-African-workers-into-EU

    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/13263/un-migration-human-right

    That is only a summary what has been started in 2015, something Nigel Farage has repeatedly mentioned and what is happening all the time. We shall see havock once the Covid-19 hoax will go into the 2nd round in late August / mid September leading to mass unemployment and trouble on the streets. It has always been the divide and conquer game where the masses will fight each other rather than standing up against the Usurper.

    Please call me a troll - I couldn´t care less. The coming months will show I was right.
     
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  12. Stroller

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    According to Gavin Williamson, 'Increasing the A Level grades will mean a whole generation could end up promoted beyond their abilities'.

    Oh, the irony.

     
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    I think that's been a major problem since the election.
    Too many cabinet ministers are either inexperienced or inept....or both.
     
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    That’ll happen when you bin the adults in the room for suggesting your Brexit agreement might be worth reading before signing.
     
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    The national media's blackout of the Cannon Hinnant story is breathtaking. It's possibly the most heinous murder in memory -- a child executed at point blank range while riding his bike in his dad's yard -- and the national media has said nothing. Seriously, nothing. Incredible.
     
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    Nick Cave: 'cancel culture is bad religion run amuck'
    Australian musician criticises people’s refusal to engage with ‘difficult ideas’

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    Nick Cave: ‘A force that finds its meaning in the cancellation of these difficult ideas hampers the creative spirit of a society and strikes at the complex and diverse nature of its culture.’ Photograph: The Oxford Union/Shutterstock

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    Published on Wed 12 Aug 2020 19.11 BST
    • Red Hand Files newsletter, the Australian musician was asked what he thinks of cancel culture. In response he decried people’s refusal to engage with “difficult ideas” and claimed that moving toward a more equal society could mean essential values were forfeited.

      “Political correctness has grown to become the unhappiest religion in the world,” he wrote. “Its once honourable attempt to reimagine our society in a more equitable way now embodies all the worst aspects that religion has to offer (and none of the beauty) – moral certainty and self-righteousness shorn even of the capacity for redemption.”


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      He added that cancel culture’s refusal to engage with uncomfortable ideas had an asphyxiating effect on the creative soul of a society, and that creativity could knock at foundational beliefs and in doing so generate fresh ways of seeing the world.

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      “This is both the function and glory of art and ideas,” he said. “A force that finds its meaning in the cancellation of these difficult ideas hampers the creative spirit of a society and strikes at the complex and diverse nature of its culture.”

      The musician, who recently staged a live concert at Alexandra Palace, which was described as “the most elaborately creative response yet to the constrictions of the lockdown,” ended with a rhetorical question. “We are a culture in transition,” he wrote. “And it may be that we are heading toward a more equal society – I don’t know – but what essential values will we forfeit in the process?”

      Cave has regularly discussed contemporary talking points in his newsletter, which he started in September 2018, such as why he and his band the Bad Seeds decided to play in Israel and not back the Boycott, Divestments and Sanctions movement.

      He has also responded to more personal topics, such as his experiences with grief after the death of his 15-year-old son, Arthur, in 2015, and answered more abstract queries, such as “what is shyness?”.

      Recently he wrote a follow-up letter addressed to fans imploring them to stop sending emails to the Italian piano manufacturers Fazioli after he said he had played one of their pianos in the Alexandra Palace gig, writing an embellished, gonzo account of his manager trying to acquire one for him.

      Cave had previously said that “the new moral zealotry that is descending upon our culture could actually be a good thing,” after a fan asked him in 2019 about the reckoning that was reverberating through the music world after #MeToo.

      “Contemporary rock music no longer seems to have the fortitude to contend with these enemies of the imagination, these enemies of art – and in this present form perhaps rock music isn’t worth saving,” he wrote. “The permafrost of puritanism could be the antidote for the weariness and nostalgia that grips it.”


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      In July, several well-known authors and public intellectuals signed an open letter that was published in Harper’s magazine saying the spread of censoriousness is leading to an intolerance of opposing views and a vogue for public shaming and ostracism.

      JK Rowling, Salman Rushdie and Margaret Atwood were among the signatories who acknowledged that “powerful protests for racial and social justice are leading to overdue demands for police reform, along with wider calls for greater equality and inclusion across our society”. The letter went on to criticise what it called “a new set of moral attitudes and political commitments that tend to weaken our norms of open debate and toleration of differences in favor of ideological conformity”.
     
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    “But he has nothing on!” a little child cried out at last.
     
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  18. MKRanger71

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    Anyone on here had kids affected by the A level results algorithm?
    MiniMkranger (ok not so mini now) got results today 1 subject going from a predicted A to a D !! Luckily 1 of the uni’s offered changed its offer a couple of days ago to unconditional so he still gets his choice.
     
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    Good for him, pleased the Unis down there have taken all this into account - my son done ok out of the SQA fiasco up here, and may even get his one B upgraded to an A, but it won't matter as his place at Uni has now been confirmed.
     
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    Agree I listened to an old Tory saying the same thing. He did say however that this will give them experience for future decisions... just a shame that some wrong decisions can lead to deaths.
     
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