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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
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Goldhawk-Road said:
What we know is that he's slightly right of Corbyn and decidedly left of Blair. His shadow cabinet appointments so far have been unexceptional. Anneliese Dodds (shadow chancellor) seems a decent person, not a strong character. I'd never have singled her out for her financial acumen. But for me, she's much more acceptable than that lying toad, John Macdonnell. So I think we'll see an improvement in Labour's fortunes under Sir Keir, but they're not going to set the world on fire. And because of coronavirus, and the current need for "big state", the Tories are stealing Labour's clothes by the day.
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Goldie, I watched a report on Starmer yesterday and they said in his early days he was very left-wing and during the comedy Corbyn era, he agreed with a lot of what he said. I think he is not being true to himself.... I am sure the press will dig out some old stories that he will need to answer.
 
ELLERS said:
Goldie, I watched a report on Starmer yesterday and they said in his early days he was very left-wing and during the comedy Corbyn era, he agreed with a lot of what he said. I think he is not being true to himself.... I am sure the press will dig out some old stories that he will need to answer.
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Failing that just make something up.
 
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ELLERS said:
Goldie, I watched a report on Starmer yesterday and they said in his early days he was very left-wing and during the comedy Corbyn era, he agreed with a lot of what he said. I think he is not being true to himself.... I am sure the press will dig out some old stories that he will need to answer.
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Yes, I heard that too, Ellers. He has been a left wing firebrand. I don't think he should be judged on his student days, but clearly his time in Corbyns' cabinet is highly relevant. I think he's going to spend a lot of time sorting out Labour's internal problems. So unless the Tories self-combust, it's going to be uphill for him to convince the electorate Labour's a government in waiting, particularly as he was a Remainer and supports freedom of movement, which Northern voters in particular, have turned their back on
 
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Oh dear Richard Burgon won't serve in 'Bell ends" shadow cabinet. Good start for bell end.
 
Goldhawk-Road said:
Yes, I heard that too, Ellers. He has been a left wing firebrand. I don't think he should be judged on his student days, but clearly his time in Corbyns' cabinet is highly relevant. I think he's going to spend a lot of time sorting out Labour's internal problems. So unless the Tories self-combust, it's going to be uphill for him to convince the electorate Labour's a government in waiting, particularly as he was a Remainer and supports freedom of movement, which Northern voters in particular, have turned their back on
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Agree I think he is uncharismatic and slimy. Many voters like someone that appeals to them. Boris for all his faults is fun/charismatic and people like him. I remember back to the election campaign when Boris went out everyone wanted to see him whereas Comrade Corbyn had to drag labour supports out to make up a crowd... I cant see many turning out for Bell end.
 
ELLERS said:
Agree I think he is uncharismatic and slimy. Many voters like someone that appeals to them. Boris for all his faults is fun/charismatic and people like him. I remember back to the election campaign when Boris went out everyone wanted to see him whereas Comrade Corbyn had to drag labour supports out to make up a crowd... I cant see many turning out for Bell end.
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He was responsible for Labour's disastrous Second Referendum strategy. The Tories will no doubt remind the electorate of this. A similar strategy totally shafted the Lib Dems
 
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I must apologize as I am a real stickler for correct titles and awards. I referred to Sir Kier Starmer as 'bell end' when really I should have said 'Sir Bell end'. I will try not to make the mistake in future posts. :1980_boogie_down:
 
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ELLERS said:
I must apologize as I am a real stickler for correct titles and awards. I referred to Sir Kier Starmer as 'bell end' when really I should have said 'Sir Bell end'. I will try not to make the mistake in future posts. :1980_boogie_down:
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Doesn't work though
That would make him either
Bell bell end
Or
bell end end
 
ELLERS said:
I must apologize as I am a real stickler for correct titles and awards. I referred to Sir Kier Starmer as 'bell end' when really I should have said 'Sir Bell end'. I will try not to make the mistake in future posts. :1980_boogie_down:
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Why couldn't you just use his actual name? Oh, and try to spell it correctly, you stickler you.
 
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