Off Topic The politics thread - Starmer/Reeves/Farage etc.
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You will have to enlighten me to the benefits of letting kids going hungry to punish their parents.Pleased you are happy
I have done work with a number of charities and kids being hungry at school massively restricts their education and therefore life opportunities. How are we then going to get them kids out of poverty and break this cycle?
As a side in this work I have liaised with professionals and a number of wealthy right leaning individuals who have also funded work in this area and not once has anyone thought letting kids go hungry is a good idea.
However, looking back at Marcus Rashfords abuse when he raised the issue there are some in our society who are happy with this. Il reiterate anyone who is happy for kids to go hungry is a twat imho.
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If a pensioner on over £35k a year can’t heat their home they will die of stupidity not the cold.
On the benefits argument, and lifting the 2 child cap. There are always going to be people who abuse the system, and checks certainly need to be in place for that but what about people who could afford kids and have since fallen on hard times.
For example people divorced, losing jobs, businesses going bust. I'd be terrified if I lost my job now. I'm 46, divorced with 2 young kids, worked non stop since I was 15, living in a rented apartment. The benefits safety net is there for people like that should they need it, not everyone is a scrounger although I'm sure we all certainly know some.
You can't just assume the majority people on any kind of benefit is milking the system. People taking advantage of the system usually don't care who knows about it, they make it obvious and therefore it looks like the majority. Many on income support or child benefit want to keep it to themselves. I bet there are people we all know receiving benefits and struggling silently.
The mess that the economy in is beyond anyone's worst case scenario, and the previous government are massively to blame. The Tories and Reform will rant on about how disgraceful it is to increase tax but we literally don't have another option, they know fine well they would be doing exactly the same.
Anyway sorry for the rant!
For example people divorced, losing jobs, businesses going bust. I'd be terrified if I lost my job now. I'm 46, divorced with 2 young kids, worked non stop since I was 15, living in a rented apartment. The benefits safety net is there for people like that should they need it, not everyone is a scrounger although I'm sure we all certainly know some.
You can't just assume the majority people on any kind of benefit is milking the system. People taking advantage of the system usually don't care who knows about it, they make it obvious and therefore it looks like the majority. Many on income support or child benefit want to keep it to themselves. I bet there are people we all know receiving benefits and struggling silently.
The mess that the economy in is beyond anyone's worst case scenario, and the previous government are massively to blame. The Tories and Reform will rant on about how disgraceful it is to increase tax but we literally don't have another option, they know fine well they would be doing exactly the same.
Anyway sorry for the rant!
France to intercept small boats after pressure from UK https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1kpmm20zwwo
Do people on benefits pay tax on anything over £12570 ?
Having taken an offshore boat licence I’d have to sympathise with anyone attempting’rescues’ from these boats …
… it’s a tricky procedure and no one wants deaths on their conscience.
I hope it works without fatalities, at least things are happening.
Aye a difficult one. We need to be robust but with some humanity.
Certainly there should be no criticism of our fantastic RNLI from ***ash and his cronies
My wife and i decided not to have children, as other couples have. So why should we help support other peoples families.
How many kids do families need to have before you become a twat and don’t want to pay for them?
As I have said there are issues that need to be addressed and I think we need cross party debate about this. However, this government is encouraging the long term unemployed back into work and is introducing financial management into the curriculum.
However, letting kids go hungry should not be seen as acceptable as we will never break this depressing cycle.
As a general point we still live in a generally civil society and what is wrong in helping others? I rarely use the health service as I’m fit and healthy and my kids no longer go to school, but I have no issues with funding these services.
Let’s not fall into the trap of these self interested non dom billionaires who are spending a fortune on public opinion and see no benefit in a decent civilised society.
Read my posts eh?
This is a big problem for our country. We created a massive underclass in the 80s when we chucked millions on the scrap heap. Look at our mining communities as example and we did next to nothing to get those communities back on their feet after massive job losses and this is the long term legacy.
As I have stated we need to get the long term unemployed back into work. Whatever your political viewpoint that just makes sense on so many levels particularly the long term unemployed and their families more than anyone else. This government is trying to do that.
We also need to get financial management into school curriculums which this government has recently agreed to do. This was obviously lost in the noise of the right wing media but is fundamental in giving kids (some will likely have little good role models at home) basic financial skills so they are not a drain on society and see the value of work.
However as you continue to labour the point, letting kids go hungry should never be an option as hungry kids will never get a good education and we will never break this cycle.
If you are happy for kids to go hungry to teach their parents a lesson fair enough but I think it’s fundamentally wrong and will do absolutely nothing to tackle the major problems in our society.
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Then we are making progress.Completely agree with all that
Now answer my question.
The question? We don’t let kids go hungry full stop as we will never break this depressing cycle. A hungry kid will never learn.
We have to put the the resources in to get the long term unemployed back to work and there should be no political point scoring to make that happen (as I have said we need some cross party consensus to make this happen). We need to use a carrot in the first instance but ultimately a stick at some point. I recognise some on the left may have an issue with that but given where this country now is it does need to happen.
Without repeating myself financial management skills on the school curriculum is a good start. Let’s not stop there…let’s give kids decent cooking skills at school and get those who use foodbanks onto eating on a budget cookery lessons as a requirement of free food.
Thanks to the last government our country is broken and the tories legacy goes back to 80s with the long term unemployed. There are no quick fixes.
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Maybe you should watch some of his videos and educate yourself
Maybe you should expand your political input beyond right wing media? You might educate yourself and realise the state of the country which this government inherited.Maybe you should watch some of his videos and educate yourself
No quick fix but at least it is trying given the poor state of the economy thanks to unecesarry austerity, Brexit, reckless Covid spending (has Mone paid back the £200m yet?) which were none of this government’s making.
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Agree again, no quick fixes.
I was happy with the 2 child cap.
I’ll ask again, how many are you happy with before you become a twat like me.
4, 6, 8, 10,
What’s your limit?