Don't know Mrs Lalala, it just seems to me that whenever there is negative news about football and PAFC are in the frame somewhere it is us who are mentioned. After all the uproar over the possible bid by members of the old board for the lombard debt a bit back and the fan backlash, I checked lots of the papers and there was no mention of it. One of the larger articles about Argyle I saw was about Reid and also Arnason. Both not good things about our club and its situation.
Newspapers only report on the negative these days so Mr Angry from the Home Counties can wax lyrical about the working man and his habits. I include football as one of the habits. Gives them more reason to want to put us all in our place. I listened to the news of 5 live today regarding football and it's finances although Argyle was not mentioned in that. This has been coming for a long time as we have all been predicting. Sadly prudence wasn't employed in the football fraternity before Argyle did it's own version of sums and came up with a losing formula. We are current so it is hardly a wonder we get the mention. However, as examples they could have looked more at the premier league who between them have more debt than the EU. It has to be done or at least something does before a club actually bites the dust. Any club once it has been sorted where they have to live within it's means that doesn't do that deserves to go down the tube. I would feel for them supporter wise but unless it changes and the clubs embrace it then it is inevitable. Having been well and truely warned and the rules well and truely publicised no club could blame anyone else if it happens. Be honest it should have been ours and it should have been numerous others before us. Maybe if the belt is tightened sufficiently the old way of doing things where money trickled down through the leagues will happen again because clubs will have to look to home and not always into foreign leagues and for proven world players given less money to spend and perhaps having to field a certain amount of home players.
There will be no more money trickling down through the leagues if liverpool get their way. Their attatude sums up the pl, the 'big' prem clubs, sky, the fa and the football league! F*** them all!!!!
I just wrote a thread on that very subject mouldy as it sort of pee's me off as well. The thing I find a little laughable is that the man from Liverpool thinks that everyone in Malaysia wants to see Liverpool. Channel one Liverpool,channel 2 Man United. Which one is broadcasting to itself in Malaysia I wonder.
Yes sensible, I read your thread and came on here to copy and paste my post above on to it. The bloke is an ar**hole! He will go far in the pl or fa if he ever went to work for one of them.
All FL players should have their wages capped respectively... this would ease clubs finances immediately. Not one player in the world is worth 50K a week or more. Starting with the PL at 5 - 10K is ample even if a short career....just need to play several seasons and retire if worse came to the worse. Or else re-train like the rest of us have to do! Forgot to mention....a round and shots on me for the rest of us plz Mrs. LaLa
Thanks hobo. Found myself listening to smooth radio this afternoon an hour of help the heros from 3pm with injured servicemen requesting music and one presenting. Very moving stories. Then I came home and put the news on and Wayne Rooney.... If I say anymore I will start cursing and swearing so I won't but you get my drift don't you!
How are you lot going to pay my OA pension when I get it if you only work part time? I remember as will most of an age on here when the first player was judged to be worth £1m to buy. I remember, and it was a plymothian, that people were incensed by the number of zeros in the total. Nobody on this planet is worth that sort of money they cried. Just look where we are now and that first insane transfer fee is peanuts. Tevez is reputed to be paid £250k per week. That is £12.5m per year. A lot of the supporters earn nearer £12.5k per year. Now look at the behaviour of these super earners often both on and off the field. Makes you proud doesn't it.
Further to my earlier post re the injured servicemen.... would Wayne Rooney have such utterly good taste in music as to request Dire Straights's Brothers in Arms - highlight of my radio listening day!
So - if in whatever occupation you had, someone offered you -say £100K per week, would you: A. Say thanks very much Or B. No thanks, I'm not worth it I presume Sensible would donate £98,500K per week to charity??
They would take it of course but you would expect them to behave with dignity and restaint and not to walk around like they can do what they like regardless of who gets hurt, they could start with their spouses and take it into matches. Wayne Rooney thinks he is too big to sing the national anthem and we all know how he behaves on the pitch.
With respect oldnickyb that is an old and tired argument. For a start there is little or no chance of that ever happening to anyone of us. As it is highly unlikely to happen then the opportunity to say yes or no will not arise. If I stretch my imagination to breaking point and just imagined that it did then I doubt I would refuse but not being likely to happen that is the easy answer and one everyone would expect. But, does that make me worth that sort of money? Should anyone actually be able to earn that sort of wage? That is the real question not whether anyone would accept or refuse it. If you have a job in the public eye which makes you a sort of roll model for young and impressionable people, whatever you get paid, should you behave as badly as a number of them appear to do? Maybe it is a bit of the commie coming out in me but personally I don't think anyone, whatever their profession, should be able to earn more in a couple of months than most people can earn in a lifetime. Is the world richer for their talent than that of a dustman or road sweeper? No, each has their place and is needed in some way. The differential in reward however is staggering in anyone's book.
Sensible - are you sitting down?? Then I'll begin: I AGREE WITH YOU!! There I've said it. Madame La La - similarly I agree with you. Basically it is all about supply and demand - rightly or wrongly! Once upon a time in a galaxy a long long time ago, I worked for a large American Engineering Consultancy - I earned £55K per year - not per week as a basic salary, big money in the 70's -in a 3 year period, I had 2 weeks holiday, worked long hours and weekends and was the most successful salesmanthey ever had! Not trying to blow my own trumpet but the point I'm trying to make is that - I put my neck on the line and worked my balls off, none of my colleagues were prepared to do the same. Nothing wrong with being paid a lot of moneyn but here's where I HAVE agreed with you boith, do so with integrity, honour and respect - that's where I went wrong
Wow!!!! there is a first oldnicky............................. It isn't being "well rewarded" that I object to. If you have an exceptional talent then by all means exploit it. If you put in the graft and time and effort and all that then by all means be rewarded. It is the amount of reward I have a problem with. For it to be obscenely out of proportion is just wrong in my book. Be good yes, be greater than the average for your talent, yes but outside the wildest dreams of the average a big no. This does not only apply to footballers may I add it applies to every occupation across the board.
