The Paul Hurst how long do we give him thread

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My opinion is that Evans will most likely sack Hurst if we are in the drop zone by Christmas, especially if there are a few points to make up. When the tide turned against Keane and Jewell, and we were in the bottom three, Evans was fairly quick to pull the trigger. He only gave Mick time in 2016/17 because there were a few seasons where we punched above our financial weight in the bank, so Mick got a bit of goodwill.

I hope it doesn’t come to that (undoubtedly I speak for us all there) because I believe that the next appointment would be a Sherwood / McClaren type panic appointment, and arguably that would be a worst option than persisting with the current manager.
 
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I think the reason everyone is losing their heads is because the bookies tipped us for relegation. Just in the same way that the media has come out for Mourinho and he has found himself under pressure and started to doubt himself - we are in danger of causing our own downfall.

This amount of hysteria after five games is not normal.
 
I'm not losing my head and I'm not prone to bouts of hysteria, I'm just giving my assessment of our season so far without any gloss or sugar coating, we can't defend set pieces so concede goals on a regular basis, our "strikers " can't score goals therefore we can't win a match and unsurprisingly find ourselves at the foot of the table.
There are lots of comments about how " systems " and " gelling ' is a surefire way to cure this most basic of football problems and I hope you are right I really do, I will be at the budgies match followed by a trip to Hull and every fibre of me wants us to win or at least not lose, if we achieve that I will give praise when its due but if we don't I also will give a cold assessment with no frills, to do otherwise is deluding ourselves which serves no purpose whatsoever.
 
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fieldmarshall said:
I'm not losing my head and I'm not prone to bouts of hysteria, I'm just giving my assessment of our season so far without any gloss or sugar coating, we can't defend set pieces so concede goals on a regular basis, our "strikers " can't score goals therefore we can't win a match and unsurprisingly find ourselves at the foot of the table.
There are lots of comments about how " systems " and " gelling ' is a surefire way to cure this most basic of football problems and I hope you are right I really do, I will be at the budgies match followed by a trip to Hull and every fibre of me wants us to win or at least not lose, if we achieve that I will give praise when its due but if we don't I also will give a cold assessment with no frills, to do otherwise is deluding ourselves which serves no purpose whatsoever.
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We created a lot of good chances in the first half against Wednesday and we were much the better team and there is a lot to improve and more players need to come in in January. Nobody is saying we are getting promoted this year so I don't see how that's deluded?
 
YorkieLancsHampyLondoner said:
I think the reason everyone is losing their heads is because the bookies tipped us for relegation. Just in the same way that the media has come out for Mourinho and he has found himself under pressure and started to doubt himself - we are in danger of causing our own downfall.

This amount of hysteria after five games is not normal.
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The bookmakers have zero impact on my thought process as to now!?

It's 5 in, we're winless and I'm completely on the same page as Field Marshall here.
 
Not me mate I'm afraid - I make my own mind up each game.

Bookies could have had us 3rd for all I care, I wouldn't have shared their point of view.
 
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Westlake33 said:
Not me mate I'm afraid - I make my own mind up each game.

Bookies could have had us 3rd for all I care, I wouldn't have shared their point of view.
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Well it's a wonder the advertising industry manages to exist when humans aren't influenced by what they see and hear isn't it?
 
Well that's my own viewpoint - I have a think where we'll come and go from there.

Some people of course are more easily influenced than others.
 
I know there was a lot of chat about being favourites to be relegated, but does anyone seriously let that influence their opinions and points of view? Surely any free thinking reasonably sane person comes to their own conclusions regardless of what Ladbrokes, Corals, etc put out, theyre are only trying to draw in more people to place bets after all.
 
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fieldmarshall said:
I know there was a lot of chat about being favourites to be relegated, but does anyone seriously let that influence their opinions and points of view? Surely any free thinking reasonably sane person comes to their own conclusions regardless of what Ladbrokes, Corals, etc put out, theyre are only trying to draw in more people to place bets after all.
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fieldmarshall, what people see and hear influences their thought, that's how propaganda and advertising works.
 
fieldmarshall said:
I know there was a lot of chat about being favourites to be relegated, but does anyone seriously let that influence their opinions and points of view? Surely any free thinking reasonably sane person comes to their own conclusions regardless of what Ladbrokes, Corals, etc put out, theyre are only trying to draw in more people to place bets after all.
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Completely agree with you here. Great post.
 
YorkieLancsHampyLondoner said:
fieldmarshall, what people see and hear influences their thought, that's how propaganda and advertising works.
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While that may have a greater effect with the general football fan looking to put a bet on, I don’t think it affected the vast majority of Ipswich fans. There was / is a feeling of optimism around the club, particularly when these predictions were being made and most of us, while aware of the scale of change, were pretty dismissive about the relegation odds talk. In fact, I don’t know any Town fan who tipped us for relegation (even us on this forum, nobody put Ipswich in the bottom three for our predictions and hardly anyone on TWTD predicted us for the drop, apart from perhaps the odd wind up merchant).
 
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While that may have a greater effect with the general football fan looking to put a bet on, I don’t think it affected the vast majority of Ipswich fans. There was / is a feeling of optimism around the club, particularly when these predictions were being made and most of us, while aware of the scale of change, were pretty dismissive about the relegation odds talk. In fact, I don’t know any Town fan who tipped us for relegation (even us on this forum, nobody put Ipswich in the bottom three for our predictions and hardly anyone on TWTD predicted us for the drop, apart from perhaps the odd wind up merchant).
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Nuggets, I'm not saying that any Town fan tipped us for relegation, but I'm certain that now we're bottom that all that press and discussion about us as relegation favourites has influenced the doom mongering.
 
YorkieLancsHampyLondoner said:
Nuggets, I'm not saying that any Town fan tipped us for relegation, but I'm certain that now we're bottom that all that press and discussion about us as relegation favourites has influenced the doom mongering.
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Maybe, but the fact we are bottom of the table is the biggest contributor to the doom mongering. Imagine if we were tipped for the top six by betting companies, wouldn’t the doom mongering be further intensified? Look at Stoke.
 
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