I don't know why people think it'll hurt McLaren the most, the way I see it is those that have far better quali than race performance are those most likely to be hurt, so don't be surprised to see Ferrari and Renault dropping back
I think it will bunch the field up a bit but honestly i don't see this ban having the red bull shattering effects people are hoping for.
Don't most people believe Renault are going to be hurt the most? McLaren will be affected a lot though, as they apparently copied Red Bull's system "very well". We'll find out tomorrow, if it's dry. That doesn't really make sense though. Ferrari have better race performance than qualifying, and even Renault are not that much worse in race pace.
Yes some people do say that Mclaren will be effected a lot, but they did not design their car around the exhaust system like Red Bull did.
Seems the whole thing backfires at those who wanted to slow down Red Bull. Renault did use more than 20% off-throttle blowing in 2009 and so the FIA allows them to use the 2009 max-off-settings.
good read on the issue http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/andrewbenson/2011/07/new_engine_rules_power_f1s_lat.html
Do Ferrari and Sauber have any choice but to agree? The FIA changed it in the first place (and second, third, fourth place...) without the teams' consent. If the teams didn't all agree, and it was protested, wouldn't it go to the Court of Arbitration for Sport? I'm sure they wouldn't back the ludicrous claims that a throttle is a moveable aerodynamic device.
It's a shame really because it's always nice to see innovation and new designs in F1. I wonder if it'll make a comeback in the future.
There is another way of reading this. It is easy to suggest that Ferrari first dictated the change and now have generously granted permission to all others and show that they will be the one's to make the sacrifice. How very magnanimous of them. The world should bow deeply to show its appreciation and give them some more extra money for setting such a good example, as they always have and always will. After all, that is why they were elevated to the status of F1's "special team" in the first place isn't it?
I thought they were going to revert to pre-Silverstone settings - which had no restrictions on the percentage off-throttle, but only forced teams to use the same engine mappings for qualifying and the race. The 50% rule was only enforced on Friday at Silverstone, and it was only for teams with Renault engines. I'm a bit confused now. Can somebody clarify what teams will be using in Germany?
I believe it is what you said above, Valencia spec ie. no restrictions but it can't be changed between quali and the race.
Whichever regulations are used I am predicting well deserved victory for Fernando Alonso in Germany, for the second year in succession.
It's been confirmed now. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/93075 http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pressreleases/f1releases/2011/Pages/f1-blown-diffusers.aspx
Thanks Forza. P.S. I think you should edit your post to acknowledge the source you have quoted from (or if you already have, actually say so!)
Felipe Massa's blog today has some intriguing information relevant to this thread. I won't post the whole blog as it's quite long, but here's the interesting information: "Okay, as from now the rules regarding the off-throttle diffuser go back to where they were, but the suggestion that our improved performance at the last race came from the rule change is wrong: when the engine mapping was changed, I would say we were losing maybe around four tenths of a second, depending on the track." http://www.ferrari.com/english/scud.../2011/07/16/we-need-to-keep-the-momentum.aspx Very interesting as Red Bull were (according to Marko) only losing half a second. Even though Red Bull were only using 45% cold blowing, their EBD was the best rear facing exhaust on the grid because they are blowing under the floor and Newey designed the car around the exhaust - this meaning that Red Bull were still badly affected. We know Ferrari were hot blowing, and in Silverstone FP2 both McLaren and Ferrari were blowing at 50% (in protest to the decision earlier that day). We never found out how much Ferrari were blowing, but based on Silverstone we know that it was at least 50%. The reason Ferrari would have only lost four tenths is because their EBD is nowhere near as good as Red Bull's system - but what this does tell us is that if Ferrari improve their EBD (which might have already happened with the Silverstone update), they can gain so much more from going back to the Valencia settings. Cosicave, the source was Autosport (which is linked under the quote). The second link was the document released by the FIA (which is where Autosport got it's information from).
