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Both are now playing at the right level ... neither would get in sniffing distance of our first team ...and rightly so ... we have moved beyond ... just the natural order .. :)
 
Both are now playing at the right level ... neither would get in sniffing distance of our first team ...and rightly so ... we have moved beyond ... just the natural order .. :)

I don't think there's a massive difference between Nugent and Okazaki. I expect our currently seemingly undroppable front man will get around the same amount of goals as Nugent did last season.

On Waggy I agree with you. That one season aside, he was barely Championship level.
 
I don't think there's a massive difference between Nugent and Okazaki. I expect our currently seemingly undroppable front man will get around the same amount of goals as Nugent did last season.

On Waggy I agree with you. That one season aside, he was barely Championship level.

... so after just 7 games for us you have written Okazaki off as no better than David Nugent? <laugh> ... fair play ..

He got 12 and 15 goals (from open play) in his last 2 seasons for Mainz in the Bundesliga ... he has scored 45 times for Japan in 95 internationals ...

I think the statistics already prove that there is a massive difference between the two players ... but you are of course perfectly entitled to your opinion ...
 
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Waghorn has scored 14 goals in 13 games this season

Great to see his career back on track even if its in a poor league

Wholly agree .. similar to Billy Mckee a couple of years back ... have noticed he is taking the pens mind and they do seem to get quite a few ... so figs not quite as impressive as they first appear ... but he is at least showing the bottle to take them, given his play-off experience etc <doh>
 
I don't think there's a massive difference between Nugent and Okazaki. I expect our currently seemingly undroppable front man will get around the same amount of goals as Nugent did last season.

On Waggy I agree with you. That one season aside, he was barely Championship level.

I think in time you'll see there is a big difference between Nugent and Okazaki.

Could I ask why you think he is "seemingly undroppable?" He has been part of the team that went 6 games unbeaten, playing good football, (obviously not as good as the excellent football you saw us play during our bad run last season) and has actually been substituted a few times when things have needed to be changed.
 
... so after just 7 games for us you have written Okazaki off as no better than David Nugent? <laugh> ... fair play ..

He got 12 and 15 goals (from open play) in his last 2 seasons for Mainz in the Bundesliga ... he has scored 45 times for Japan in 95 internationals ...

I think the statistics already prove that there is a massive difference between the two players ... but you are of course perfectly entitled to your opinion ...

I haven't written him off as I like Nugent! I realise it'll take him time to settle in, but currently he really doesn't look like scoring if he plays all weekend. And goals are the only stats I am interesting from a striker in a free scoring side. Especially one that starts every week.
 
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I think in time you'll see there is a big difference between Nugent and Okazaki.

Could I ask why you think he is "seemingly undroppable?" He has been part of the team that went 6 games unbeaten, playing good football, (obviously not as good as the excellent football you saw us play during our bad run last season) and has actually been substituted a few times when things have needed to be changed.

Because he has replaced last season's top goalscorer and hasn't done nearly as well yet he remains in the team. He has been hauled off, your right, but starts again the next week. Anyone would think there was some kind of ulterior motive to picking him, like, I don't know, overseas marketing?
 
Because he has replaced last season's top goalscorer and hasn't done nearly as well yet he remains in the team. He has been hauled off, your right, but starts again the next week. Anyone would think there was some kind of ulterior motive to picking him, like, I don't know, overseas marketing?

He was absolutely great against Sunderland and scored a real poacher's goal against West Ham ... the guy has had a great start ... but if the facts don't pan out as you'd like there is always a good conspiracy theory eh? ...

As a goal scorer, particularly at International level, he has stats that Nuge could only ever hope to match if the game makers of FIFA16 mistakenly mixed his profile with ............. Shinji Okazaki <laugh>
 
He was absolutely great against Sunderland and scored a real poacher's goal against West Ham ... the guy has had a great start ... but if the facts don't pan out as you'd like there is always a good conspiracy theory eh? ...

As a goal scorer, particularly at International level, he has stats that Nuge could only ever hope to match if the game makers of FIFA16 mistakenly mixed his profile with ............. Shinji Okazaki <laugh>

He started well, yes - against a completely abject Sunderland and, like you said, a poached goal against West Ham. Not so good the last five games.

Comparing them at International level is hardly fair, Okazaki comes from a country where football is far from the number one sport and much of the continental opposition is very poor. At least Nugent has taken to the field for England and scored - a lot of very good English players haven't achieved that.

As for the conspiracy theory - it's not that far fetched. I mean, he's not the first average Japanese player we've had is he?
 
LG - have you noticed that Vardy isnt being a headless chicken for most of the match these days. He has saved his pace for counter attacking, and it is this that has him as the Prems top scorer at the moment. It is Okazaki who is pressing the defender with the ball the majority of the time. Ranieri obviously likes his pace up front so Vardy and Okazaki are the natural 2 to pick. You can disagree with his selection, but the game plan for those 2 has resulted in a much more decisive and lethal Vardy. As an aside, I am amazed that we havent stuck with a back 3 as it proved so successful for us but it looks like Was may not be rated that highly and Benny may need more time. Fuchs I simply do not rate and am surprised we signed him.
 
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He started well, yes - against a completely abject Sunderland and, like you said, a poached goal against West Ham. Not so good the last five games.

Comparing them at International level is hardly fair, Okazaki comes from a country where football is far from the number one sport and much of the continental opposition is very poor. At least Nugent has taken to the field for England and scored - a lot of very good English players haven't achieved that.

As for the conspiracy theory - it's not that far fetched. I mean, he's not the first average Japanese player we've had is he?
..Shinji has goals against the likes of Argentina,Chile and Belgium...Nuge has that tap in from 3 mm out that would have gone in if he'd been watching rather than playing :) ... again, no real comparison...
 
Latest news is that Calum Wilson will bout for 6 months with kne ligament injury ... Bournemouth been incredibly unlucky with injuries and will need to dig deep ...
 
Jack Grealish getting pelters on social media for opting for England ... part of the problem is that he has already played for Ireland at youth level(s) and therefore comes across as turning his back on the country that was good enough for him then ...

Strangely Ryan Giggs never got such stick when opting for Wales after playing for England schoolboys ...
 
Not convinced that's a well thought out decision from Gealish.

Don't think there is room for him in the England team at all. In fact I think he's seriously over rated.
 
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