The EU debate - Part III

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NowsufferinginSpain said:
It hardly matters where it came from. You can be sure there's a lot of tourist money in there due to the weak pound. As far as the consequences of Brexit go, it means nothing.

But good luck trying to convince yourself otherwise...
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Which is what people point out each time you and your fellow depressives try to dismiss positive news because of who reports it.

I'm not trying to convince myself of anything, it's about playing the hand you're dealt rather than just whining on and on...
 
remembercolinlee said:
This is simply a myth. I have not included any attacks on police or army stations, nor any political assignation in the following list.

Ealing 2001 ... 7 civilians injured
Omagh 1998...29 dead
Docklands 1996 ...2 dead
Manchester shopping centre 1996 ... approx 200 injured
Shankill Road 1993...8 dead
Bishopsgate 1993...1 dead 30 plus injured
County down 1993...7 injured
Teebane 1992...8 construction workers dead
Baltic exchange 1992 ...3 dead 91 injured
Victoria train station...1 dead 38 injured
Harrods bombing 1982...3 dead 90 plus injured
Hyde Park 1982...11 dead dozens injured
Dunmurry train bomb....3 dead 12 injured
LaMon restaurant bombing 1978 ...12 dead 30 injured
London hit on hotel bomb 1975 2 dead 30 plus injured
Birmingham and Guildford pub bombs 1974...26 dead hundreds injured

I haven't included any of the shootings by the IRA or all of the attacks made or any by loyalist terrorists.
Human life was absolutely targeted by the IRA and other terrorists at the time.

Note also forgot to put in the Warrington bombings in the 1990s
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I disagree, the number where warnings were issued and bombs caused no loss of life or were defused far exceed the number you have listed. I have had 4 IRA bombs go off near me in the seventies and eighties, the biggest was at Brent Cross which destroyed an entire row of shops and made the flyover unusable for months.
 
Custard the controller said:
77 killed in Sweden
what about the 137 killed in Paris in November, then another 20 killed in Paris in the January, that puts it over the list you have shown.

As I said try again

Here is a more accurate list (not perfect)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Europe

Last few years seem to be one type of people (religion) doing the killing, except the far right nutter.
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Please give me a link for the 77 killed in Sweden in 2011.
 
steveninaster1 said:
I disagree, the number where warnings were issued and bombs caused no loss of life or were defused far exceed the number you have listed. I have had 4 IRA bombs go off near me in the seventies and eighties, the biggest was at Brent Cross which destroyed an entire row of shops and made the flyover unusable for months.
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Your original post said the current terrorists aimed to kill whereas the IRA mostly sent warnings and hit infrastructure...the list I gave (which ignored the bombings and or shootings against the police, the army and politicians and royal family) show that you assertion is wrong.
I do not get why anyone would suggest that Isis inspired terrorists are worse...they might be more efficient (in their terms) but surely killing innocent victims is equally wrong
 
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DMD said:
That's a piss poor rewrite. Interesting* how any reports that don't prophesy doom and gloom are the only ones you see as bias. :emoticon-0102-bigsm


*Have that one on me Archie. :emoticon-0105-wink:
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I've only ever voted Tory or not at all. I'm certainly no leftie. However, in my opinion, sources from the centre and centre-left tend to be more balanced than to the right of centre.

A source which equates GDP going up to the future being bright is either intentionally omitting other important facts or biased.
 
Watford_R said:
I've only ever voted Tory or not at all. I'm certainly no leftie. However, in my opinion, sources from the centre and centre-left tend to be more balanced than to the right of centre.

A source which equates GDP going up to the future being bright is either intentionally omitting other important facts or biased.
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So a report that appears in several outlets is biased if it also gets a mention in the Mail. I guess there's a logic in that somewhere.
 
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DMD said:
So a report that appears in several outlets is biased if it also gets a mention in the Mail. I guess there's a logic in that somewhere.
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That's not what I said at all. As always, you read what you want to read and delude yourself you're making some sort of point.
 
Watford_R said:
That's not what I said at all. As always, you read what you want to read and delude yourself you're making some sort of point.
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It's certainly what your post implied, but I can see why you'd prefer it to be read some other way so it didn't seem quite so ridiculous.
 
DMD said:
It's certainly what your post implied, but I can see why you'd prefer it to be read some other way so it didn't seem quite so ridiculous.
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No, it wasn't. I'd love help you fill up your afternoon with more hours of you pretending you have a clue what you're on about and deflecting when you run out of ideas but you'll have to find someone else this time.
 
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