The EU debate - Part III

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Except it's not going to happen.

The French will not elect Le Pen. They will also not leave the EU, and it will be the UK with its head stuck up its own arse. Which won't really change much as that's where the Gvt has their's now!...

You dont have a very good track record on guess who will win elections, so she is now odds on winning <laugh>
 
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Granted, at present, it does, but who knows what the future holds. But even if it's your favoured option, it's not the only one, so it's foolish to chuck all the eggs in one basket.

You can't create a strategy based on the fanciful idea that the EU trading bloc will somehow disband.

We have to deal with the reality of the present.

What other options to retained our single market access do you think would provide us with a growing economy moving forwards? As you're saying there's other options, what are they?
 
You can't create a strategy based on the fanciful idea that the EU trading bloc will somehow disband.

We have to deal with the reality of the present.

What other options to retained our single market access do you think would provide us with a growing economy moving forwards? As you're saying there's other options, what are they?

Good job I didn't then.

There is pretty much the options that the world outside the EU use, and a bundle of others countries in Europe use. It's far from limited to just your one option.
 
But we're not there, so the EU as was doesn't exist.

I should have won the lottery, but I didn't so I can't live my life as if I have. It's just a harsh reality.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't consider it. I gave my opinion that we made the wrong choice at the wrong time. It's also my opinion that we should have stayed and help influence the coming changes.
 
Sorry this is where you and I disagree.
My view is that a "remain" vote would have been the green light to carry on, as is.
Why modernise if people appear to be happy?

A narrow remain vote, and in my view the vote was always going to be close, would have been a clear warning shot that all was far from well.

All this ignores the point that the EU will need to reform. It's inevitable, as it can't carry on in it's present form.
 
But you know all very well, we have little to no influence in the EU.
Stop banging on about something that will/would never change.

We have no influence in the EU now. We had a pretty good deal before June 23rd. In fact we'll never get a deal like it now, despite having half our civil service locked down for the next god knows how many years trying to negotiate one.
 
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It seems you not having a clue, and simply spouting media sound bites is a fact, and accounts for that petulant reply. <ok>

Which media soundbites?

I've given an opinion on her based on what I know. You've given no opinion as you rarely do on anythin. As ever, you've spent a large proportion of your day not giving an opinion, responding to questions with questions and being a hypocrite.
 
Which media soundbites?

I've given an opinion on her based on what I know. You've given no opinion as you rarely do on anythin. As ever, you've spent a large proportion of your day not giving an opinion, responding to questions with questions and being a hypocrite.

It seems clear your opinion wasn't formed by looking at and considering the actual policies.

Now that seems to have been shown, you've fallen back to childish abuse in preference to owning up and trying to get more informed.

You could always prove me wrong, by dropping the childish **** and discussing.
 
It seems clear your opinion wasn't formed by looking at and considering the actual policies.

Now that seems to have been shown, you've fallen back to childish abuse in preference to owning up and trying to get more informed.

You could always prove me wrong, by dropping the childish **** and discussing.

When have you ever discussed anything. You just question others and don't answer questions put to you.

I read her immigration policy amongst others and disagreed with it. Rather than say if you agree with it or not you've avoided committing to any opinion. You haven't got the bollocks to admit you want her to win, hiding behind "I don't know enough to give an opinion".
 
When have you ever discussed anything. You just question others and don't answer questions put to you.

I read her immigration policy amongst others and disagreed with it. Rather than say if you agree with it or not you've avoided committing to any opinion. You haven't got the bollocks to admit you want her to win, hiding behind "I don't know enough to give an opinion".

So you're sticking with childish abuse and trying to repeat claims that were shown to be false when I posted opinions and predicted some fool would still try to claim I don't. There also some opinions of mine just a few posts back.

All in all, it's just one bit of bullshit after another, and little in the way of discussion from you.

You did seem to want to discuss, until it looked like the reasons you offered for your comments on Le Penn, we're pretty much the same as EU policy. Coincidence I'm sure.
 
But you know all very well, we have little to no influence in the EU.
Stop banging on about something that will/would never change.
We had plenty of influence in the EU, though it was diluted by UKIP's MEPs doing **** all for years.
The UK simply hasn't disagreed about many of the EU's policies for years.
I think it's objected to something like 2% of proposed measures.
 
I'm aware you asked yet another question. As I said the first time, I'll answer your question when you answer mine. Your answer need only be yes or no whereas mine will need a little more thought.

Do you want Marine Le Pen to win the French presidential election?
I do.
 
Name them?

Sorry, I missed this earlier. I reckon I just subconsciously dismissed it as an attempt at a meaningless diversion, but as you'll just keep asking.

How about Norway, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Albania, Switzerland, Turkey, Russia, Macedonia and Montenegro...
 
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