The EU debate - Part III

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I view the political spectrum as a clock face.and would place Stalin at one second to twelve and Hitler at one second past twelve with the centre at six There no difference between them in their treatment of their citizens. A frightening number of the leave supporters on here I would place in a segment between five past twelve and ten past twelve but I don't think that any of the remainers appear in the corresponding before twelve segment.
It Is probable that Hull won't understand this without a picture and Pete will point out that I should have used a 24hour clock to show that Hitler was in the centre of politics. I hope the rest of you, however can understand this.
 
paultheplug said:
I view the political spectrum as a clock face.and would place Stalin at one second to twelve and Hitler at one second past twelve with the centre at six There no difference between them in their treatment of their citizens. A frightening number of the leave supporters on here I would place in a segment between five past twelve and ten past twelve but I don't think that any of the remainers appear in the corresponding before twelve segment.
It Is probable that Hull won't understand this without a picture and Pete will point out that I should have used a 24hour clock to show that Hitler was in the centre of politics. I hope the rest of you, however can understand this.
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Dull Hull will query the conventional use of the 12 hour clock.
 
Marine Le Pen is the fascist descendant of a fascist tradition. The fact that she wears business suits rather than a brown shirt, and insults prople's religion rather than their race would only fool an idiot into thinking of her as a mainstream politician.

Everyone in France knows this. She is a Nazi in a dress. Only Pete is fooled - I think he likes a hard faced blonde.
 
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petersaxton said:
I don't think you understand the point he was making.
He was pointing out that you simply criticise them for who they are and you are incapable of discussing what they say.
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I do not believe in that Fascists say anything that is useful or helpful in a debate
petersaxton said:
You act like Stalin and Mao didn't kill millions of people.
You have a very lopsided view of the world.
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petersaxton said:
You act like Stalin and Mao didn't kill millions of people.
You have a very lopsided view of the world.
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I have not compared them...I haven't even mentioned Stalin. My simple point was that using the words of a Fascist weakened the guys argument...I have no idea what your points on this are for.
You ascribe views to me that are not true as though it is your right.
Le Pen is a Fascist Leader of a Fascist Party and in my view history has shown the danger of treating them as though they were a legitimate political party. Therefore using the words of a Fascist to back up your argument is a mistake which is what I post to the other guy
 
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Archers Road said:
Marine Le Pen is the fascist descendant of a fascist tradition. The fact that she wears business suits rather than a brown shirt, and insults prople's religion rather than their race would only fool an idiot into thinking of her as a mainstream politician.

Everyone in France knows this. She is a Nazi in a dress. Only Pete is fooled - I think he likes a hard faced blonde.
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No prizes for guessing what Ula wears on his birthday
 
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petersaxton said:
What has your rant relating to 70 years ago got to do with Marine Le Pen?
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Rant?
Pointing out the acts of Fascism is now a "rant"?
The "rant" relates to 70 years ago cos that's when Fascism gave us the Holocaust, the slaughter of millions of innocents and the deaths of world war 2.
Le Pen is a Fascist . It is not difficult to see the link unless you are deliberately trying to be obstinate imo.
 
petersaxton said:
minimising?
he was showing that stalin and mao were worse
don't you understand the difference?
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My guys killed less than the other guys is a pretty crap argument.

Particularly when the person you are "arguing" with hasn't mention the other guys.

You're batshit mental. Have you always been this loopy or is it something that's come with age and an increasing sense of shame/failure?
 
remembercolinlee said:
I do not believe in that Fascists say anything that is useful or helpful in a debate


I have not compared them...I haven't even mentioned Stalin. My simple point was that using the words of a Fascist weakened the guys argument...I have no idea what your points on this are for.
You ascribe views to me that are not true as though it is your right.
Le Pen is a Fascist Leader of a Fascist Party and in my view history has shown the danger of treating them as though they were a legitimate political party. Therefore using the words of a Fascist to back up your argument is a mistake which is what I post to the other guy
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You dont seem to understand that you should consider the words said not who is saying them. If you don't do that you will never develop into a mature individual.
 
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remembercolinlee said:
Rant?
Pointing out the acts of Fascism is now a "rant"?
The "rant" relates to 70 years ago cos that's when Fascism gave us the Holocaust, the slaughter of millions of innocents and the deaths of world war 2.
Le Pen is a Fascist . It is not difficult to see the link unless you are deliberately trying to be obstinate imo.
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People can rant about any subject. Don't you understand that?
You have to get a sense of proportion. It was 70 years ago.
Why do you say that Marine Le Pen is a racist? Can you quote anything she has said that indicates she is a racist?
 
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You dont seem to understand that you should consider the words said not who is saying them. If you don't do that you will never develop into a mature individual.
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And you were saying Custard....no school Saturday, so insult time.
I choose to believe that you're not stupid Custard, but every one of Petes replies includes an insult. Your defence of him is bizarre.
 
remembercolinlee said:
I do not "always insult people". Pointing out the Le Pen is a Fascist does not equate to me "always insulting people".
If you doubt she is a Fascist then look up articles on her and her party as they will clearly show the nature of her and her parties politics.
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Here are some of your quotes:
Completely beyond me why anything that piece of **** says would be of interest to you.
She is (by the very definition of Fascist) anti democratic and as such nothing the nazi **** says is of use in this or any other debate.
Nazi's should only ever be treated with utter like the ****s they are.
Therefore (as i said in my first response to you) imo quoting that Fascist **** demeans your argument.
I do not ignore Fascists...I actively oppose them and campaign against them when the ****ers stand in elections or attempt to march via my union and in my community.
She a ****er.
 
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