The EU debate - Part III

Slow reader, we have all finished reading it 3 days ago

 

You stupid ****

 

A website with a banner headline called BBC bias, that's going to give the reader a well balanced, unbiased view on the BBC's supposed bias

 

As insightful as ever Kustard, you clueless little Englander

 

How is your blood pressure today, I hear the Vet told you to take it easy.

 

They've been claiming pro EU bias at the BBC for 17 years so this report isn't exactly a surprise.

 

It appears to be a website that's compiled it's own report on bias, from a standpoint of trying to find bias.

It's 2 hobby horses appear to be climate change and Brexit.

I'd love to see who's funding it.......

EDIT: just researched it - right wing activists are behind it. File under bullshit

 

And yet the other day, you defended a poll by an anti EU group that happened to support your opinion.

 

That's not a given. And it's got many potential pitfalls in it too.

This gives a brief explanation.

Problems with a "hard Brexit"
At the other end of the spectrum, May faces a different set of problems. If the UK falls back on standard World Trade Organisation (WTO) rules, it would have the same access to the EU market as China, which means very high tariffs. The report warns that even standard WTO membership isn't a guarantee, however, and suggests that the UK may need to reapply to join the WTO once it has left the EU.

That is unlikely, however. WTO chief Roberto Azevedo said last week that "the UK is a member of the WTO today, it will continue to be a member tomorrow. There will be no discontinuity in membership."

The reality is that Theresa May will have to try and find a compromise which allows some access to the single market and curbs on immigration, but that will be difficult given the demands placed on her by a group of European officials and leaders who believe the UK must "pay the price" for Brexit.

 

Which poll was this?

 

I understand what you say, but will the EU want to offer such high tariffs, as they will be punished with the same tariffs in return, also the UK will just go and do a deal with other countries (this is going on now and only a fool will think its not)

 

1. For the umpteenth time 44% of our exports go to the EU, the total tariff revenue is a red herring. Nearly half of our exports are at risk here, and it's not just the tariffs it's the customs union issue. The increase in price and the slower delivery times for our exports will make them far less competitive in that market

2. Most of our manufacturing is foreign owned ffs, and produces here for both the domestic and EU markets. Not only will we lose future investment but also those already here will consider switching production to escape the tariffs

3. This bollocks myth that the rest of the World is suddenly going to want what we produce, when the opportunity for World trade has always been there, is utterly ridiculous, and again, most of what we produce is foreign owned. Why would a manufacturer set up in the UK to service a market in the US or the Far East for example?

Life outside of the single market would be a massive kick in the bollocks for the UK economy, those spinning it'll all be fine, are either deluded, have an agenda or are ****ing clueless. It wouldn't be 'fine' at all. It'd put us back a decade plus.

 

It's not how it works. If the EU offer lower tariffs then other non eu countries can object and start a WTO trade dispute that prevents them offering a preferential deal.

 

In short, the EU is an important global market. The UK alone is nowhere near as important.

The only possible incentive for foreign owned companies to remain in the UK would be an ultra competitive corporate tax rate.

 

Another massive fiscal benefit to our economy from Brexit

A halving of corporation tax to the suggested 10% level would cost us about £25BN a year.

What a saving we're going to make

 

David Davis's cunning negotiation tactic

 

The same EU that has little or no growth (GDP) compared to the rest of the world?

As you say about low corp, this will scare the EU, deals will be done and we will all be happy(ish) except Tobes who will just moan for the sake of it.

 

The growth forecasts for 2017 for the EU and the UK are on a par you nugget

How will low Corporation tax 'scare' the EU? They'll be to just offset the export tariffs, and will give us little or no genuine advantage