The Breakfast debate

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ellandback

ellandback

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Good Morning Everyone,

The league table makes for glum reading today. The only saving grace is that Brighton separate us from the relegation zone.

1 Bournemouth 48
2 Ipswich 47
3 Derby 45
4 Middlesbrough 43
5 Watford 41
6 Brentford 40
7 Norwich 37
8 Wolves 37
9 Blackburn 35
10 Sheff Wed 34
11 Nottm Forest 31
12 Cardiff 31
13 Charlton 31
14 Birmingham 31
15 Bolton 29
16 Reading 29
17 Fulham 28
18 Huddersfield 28
19 Rotherham 26
20 Leeds 24
21 Brighton 23
22 Millwall 23
23 Wigan 20
24 Blackpool 14

Looking at budgets, wage structures etc, it has to be said that we are seriously under performing!

How, I hear you ask?

Doukara, touted about at 1.5m. I do not know how much he signed for. but..... (Signed permanently)

Bellusci 3.5m Again, I don't know how much he signed for, but that was the figure touted about that he was worth...

Adryan 3m???

The list can go on and on...

Why can't we produce a balanced side?


One of Derby's better players last night was Chris Martin, a free transfer. When was the last time we got a free transfer half as good as him?


I am not defending our performance one bit, 24 points in as many games speaks for itself, but we don't seem to get much luck?

Not sure if last night was own goal number 4 or 5?

We have conceded more pens then anyone else (ish)

We have only been awarded one pen all season


Yesterday I do not believe we had a shot on target.

Even when Sharp came on, it made absolutely no difference. If the development team played Derby last night, would they have been any worse?

Would they have shown more fight?
 
ellandback said:
Good Morning Everyone,

The league table makes for glum reading today. The only saving grace is that Brighton separate us from the relegation zone.

1 Bournemouth 48
2 Ipswich 47
3 Derby 45
4 Middlesbrough 43
5 Watford 41
6 Brentford 40
7 Norwich 37
8 Wolves 37
9 Blackburn 35
10 Sheff Wed 34
11 Nottm Forest 31
12 Cardiff 31
13 Charlton 31
14 Birmingham 31
15 Bolton 29
16 Reading 29
17 Fulham 28
18 Huddersfield 28
19 Rotherham 26
20 Leeds 24
21 Brighton 23
22 Millwall 23
23 Wigan 20
24 Blackpool 14

Looking at budgets, wage structures etc, it has to be said that we are seriously under performing!

How, I hear you ask?

Doukara, touted about at 1.5m. I do not know how much he signed for. but..... (Signed permanently)

Bellusci 3.5m Again, I don't know how much he signed for, but that was the figure touted about that he was worth...

Adryan 3m???

The list can go on and on...

Why can't we produce a balanced side?


One of Derby's better players last night was Chris Martin, a free transfer. When was the last time we got a free transfer half as good as him?


I am not defending our performance one bit, 24 points in as many games speaks for itself, but we don't seem to get much luck?

Not sure if last night was own goal number 4 or 5?

We have conceded more pens then anyone else (ish)

We have only been awarded one pen all season


Yesterday I do not believe we had a shot on target.

Even when Sharp came on, it made absolutely no difference. If the development team played Derby last night, would they have been any worse?

Would they have shown more fight?
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Morning Matt. <ok>

Brighton's win at Fulham has dragged you further into the mire. <ok>
 
Former footballer Robbie Savage says Leeds United look hopeless and will struggle to avoid relegation after witnessing their 2-0 defeat at Derby County.

Savage, who finished his playing career at Derby, watched on has Leeds made it just one point from their last five games and they finish the year just one point above the relegation zone and Savage says the side lack a leader and are a shadow of former Leeds sides.

'This Leeds team look hopeless, it will be a struggle to stay up,". Savage told BBC Radio Five Live. "They haven't got a leader. I have seen great Leeds teams playing with energy and passion but they have been very poor tonight.'
 
Morning all

I think this is the worst situation I've seen the club be in coming in to the new year. I don't remember hovering over the relegation zone under Wise at New Year.

Savage is right and I'll repeat what i said last night we need a Naylor esq player who is a fan or a Radebe esq player who can become a cult hero.

I would say let's hope that Celino has bought some players before the embargo but I don't think it would help
 
Club went backwards as soon as Redders got the job, we may as well have stayed with Jonny Darko because at least he has history as a decent manager. Love what redders has done for the kids, but he simply hasn't a clue at this level. Savage last night said that the silly diamond formation needs changing because Leeds will never get a shot at goal as they have no width, and just puts their defence under constant pressure. He also said their's no heart or a leader even though there's a lot of talent it doesn't get used correctly. So Dukara may well be a good player but hates what he's been asked to do and that goes for all of them. Young Cook was the only shining light last night and I'm sick of it all.

Makes no difference what players Cellino brings in, because in this lash up we have no chance. Brighton under Houghton will be fine and we go down just ahead of Blackpool. Embarrassed to be getting texts last night and this am from mates taking the poss about my team. The idiot we had at the start of the season may have done a better job?
 
Doc said:
Club went backwards as soon as Redders got the job, we may as well have stayed with Jonny Darko because at least he has history as a decent manager. Love what redders has done for the kids, but he simply hasn't a clue at this level. Savage last night said that the silly diamond formation needs changing because Leeds will never get a shot at goal as they have no width, and just puts their defence under constant pressure. He also said their's no heart or a leader even though there's a lot of talent it doesn't get used correctly. So Dukara may well be a good player but hates what he's been asked to do and that goes for all of them. Young Cook was the only shining light last night and I'm sick of it all.

Makes no difference what players Cellino brings in, because in this lash up we have no chance. Brighton under Houghton will be fine and we go down just ahead of Blackpool. Embarrassed to be getting texts last night and this am from mates taking the poss about my team. The idiot we had at the start of the season may have done a better job?
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We are meant to be going in for a left winger Raphael Martinho
 
Eireleeds1 said:
Morning all. I've nothing to add except Agree Brighton now safe under hughton and were gone
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Yeah definitely! To think that him and Clarke were available and we went with Milanic and Redfearn.

To be fair to Milanic I think given the chance he'd have done a good job for us!
 
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Grogger said:
Yeah definitely! To think that him and Clarke were available and we went with Milanic and Redfearn.

To be fair to Milanic I think given the chance he'd have done a good job for us!
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I agree with you about Milanic. He should not have been sacked.
 
Morning all. Not good last night. Still worse, we have Del Fabro and Montenegro who can't even get a game, despite the fact that we're not playing well. If Sunderland turn us over badly on Sunderland, I can see Redfearn returning to the academy and someone more experienced coming in.

If we are going for a winger, will he get a game? If Monteneg behind them?ro were to play on Sunday, where should he play and who should drop out? Montenegro and Sharp up front, with Adryan playing
 
Mr Wolves-White said:
Morning all

I think this is the worst situation I've seen the club be in coming in to the new year. I don't remember hovering over the relegation zone under Wise at New Year.

Savage is right and I'll repeat what i said last night we need a Naylor esq player who is a fan or a Radebe esq player who can become a cult hero.

I would say let's hope that Celino has bought some players before the embargo but I don't think it would help
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Morning Wolves
 
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