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Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ellandback, Dec 31, 2014.

  1. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Good Morning Everyone,

    The league table makes for glum reading today. The only saving grace is that Brighton separate us from the relegation zone.

    1 Bournemouth 48
    2 Ipswich 47
    3 Derby 45
    4 Middlesbrough 43
    5 Watford 41
    6 Brentford 40
    7 Norwich 37
    8 Wolves 37
    9 Blackburn 35
    10 Sheff Wed 34
    11 Nottm Forest 31
    12 Cardiff 31
    13 Charlton 31
    14 Birmingham 31
    15 Bolton 29
    16 Reading 29
    17 Fulham 28
    18 Huddersfield 28
    19 Rotherham 26
    20 Leeds 24
    21 Brighton 23
    22 Millwall 23
    23 Wigan 20
    24 Blackpool 14

    Looking at budgets, wage structures etc, it has to be said that we are seriously under performing!

    How, I hear you ask?

    Doukara, touted about at 1.5m. I do not know how much he signed for. but..... (Signed permanently)

    Bellusci 3.5m Again, I don't know how much he signed for, but that was the figure touted about that he was worth...

    Adryan 3m???

    The list can go on and on...

    Why can't we produce a balanced side?


    One of Derby's better players last night was Chris Martin, a free transfer. When was the last time we got a free transfer half as good as him?


    I am not defending our performance one bit, 24 points in as many games speaks for itself, but we don't seem to get much luck?

    Not sure if last night was own goal number 4 or 5?

    We have conceded more pens then anyone else (ish)

    We have only been awarded one pen all season


    Yesterday I do not believe we had a shot on target.

    Even when Sharp came on, it made absolutely no difference. If the development team played Derby last night, would they have been any worse?

    Would they have shown more fight?
     
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  2. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Redfearn says 'We all need to stay positive'



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  3. Millwallsteve

    Millwallsteve Waterloo's Finest Forum Moderator

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    Morning Matt. <ok>

    Brighton's win at Fulham has dragged you further into the mire. <ok>
     
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    Millwallsteve Waterloo's Finest Forum Moderator

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    I'm tempted to lump on Redfearn as the next sacking at 16's given Cellino's lack of patience with managers. <ok> <doh>
     
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    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Former footballer Robbie Savage says Leeds United look hopeless and will struggle to avoid relegation after witnessing their 2-0 defeat at Derby County.

    Savage, who finished his playing career at Derby, watched on has Leeds made it just one point from their last five games and they finish the year just one point above the relegation zone and Savage says the side lack a leader and are a shadow of former Leeds sides.

    'This Leeds team look hopeless, it will be a struggle to stay up,". Savage told BBC Radio Five Live. "They haven't got a leader. I have seen great Leeds teams playing with energy and passion but they have been very poor tonight.'
     
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  6. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Morning Steve.

    Its does not look particularly good for either of us, does it?
     
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    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Thats great odds.

    I see Brighton are going to appoint Chris Hughton
     
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  8. Millwallsteve

    Millwallsteve Waterloo's Finest Forum Moderator

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    Exactly Matt, any word on how long before Cellino bins Redfearn off? <ok>
     
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    Millwallsteve Waterloo's Finest Forum Moderator

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    Exactly Matt, we're hoping something comes good in the window. <ok>
     
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  10. Millwallsteve

    Millwallsteve Waterloo's Finest Forum Moderator

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    10's now after last night's result no doubt. <ok>
     
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  11. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Morning all Savage sums us up, we could have played another 90 minutes yesterday, we never looked like scoring, never once went close.
     
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  12. Mr Wolves-White

    Mr Wolves-White Well-Known Member

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    Morning all

    I think this is the worst situation I've seen the club be in coming in to the new year. I don't remember hovering over the relegation zone under Wise at New Year.

    Savage is right and I'll repeat what i said last night we need a Naylor esq player who is a fan or a Radebe esq player who can become a cult hero.

    I would say let's hope that Celino has bought some players before the embargo but I don't think it would help
     
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  13. Doc

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    Club went backwards as soon as Redders got the job, we may as well have stayed with Jonny Darko because at least he has history as a decent manager. Love what redders has done for the kids, but he simply hasn't a clue at this level. Savage last night said that the silly diamond formation needs changing because Leeds will never get a shot at goal as they have no width, and just puts their defence under constant pressure. He also said their's no heart or a leader even though there's a lot of talent it doesn't get used correctly. So Dukara may well be a good player but hates what he's been asked to do and that goes for all of them. Young Cook was the only shining light last night and I'm sick of it all.

    Makes no difference what players Cellino brings in, because in this lash up we have no chance. Brighton under Houghton will be fine and we go down just ahead of Blackpool. Embarrassed to be getting texts last night and this am from mates taking the poss about my team. The idiot we had at the start of the season may have done a better job?
     
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  14. Mr Wolves-White

    Mr Wolves-White Well-Known Member

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    We are meant to be going in for a left winger Raphael Martinho
     
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    Morning all. I've nothing to add except Agree Brighton now safe under hughton and were gone
     
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    Yeah definitely! To think that him and Clarke were available and we went with Milanic and Redfearn.

    To be fair to Milanic I think given the chance he'd have done a good job for us!
     
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    I agree with you about Milanic. He should not have been sacked.
     
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    Morning all. Not good last night. Still worse, we have Del Fabro and Montenegro who can't even get a game, despite the fact that we're not playing well. If Sunderland turn us over badly on Sunderland, I can see Redfearn returning to the academy and someone more experienced coming in.

    If we are going for a winger, will he get a game? If Monteneg behind them?ro were to play on Sunday, where should he play and who should drop out? Montenegro and Sharp up front, with Adryan playing
     
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    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Morning ristac
     
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  20. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Morning Wolves
     
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