Off Topic The Boris Johnson Appreciation Thread
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Thought you would know what it would gargle like!
oh, and Mr. Shop, this proper Labour Party... Would that be the one that believed in nationalisation of gas, electric, water etc. and in free education, and a taxation system where people paid according to their relative wealth, and where 'investment' meant putting real money into real job creating projects, and believed in equal opportunity, social housing for the poorer members of communities, and...... Etc etc.
If so, then that is what the labour party is all about. Basically going back to its core beliefs pre Blair.
Apparently, that's vile and Marxist. It's a sad indictment of modern populism. Demonise the centre and left - enough people believe the bollocks, hey Ho.
If so, then that is what the labour party is all about. Basically going back to its core beliefs pre Blair.
Apparently, that's vile and Marxist. It's a sad indictment of modern populism. Demonise the centre and left - enough people believe the bollocks, hey Ho.
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By the sounds of it people who gargle jizz
If anyone wants a clear position
Again, the LibDem position of remaining in the E.U has never wavered; it's a core value.
Anyone who truly believes that nothing has changed since June 2016 other than remoaners blocking 'the will of the people' is being wilfully ignorant. First we had 'brexit means brexit', then 'let's get on with it' and now 'it's the will of the people'. Empty slogans for a political deceit.
Again, the LibDem position of remaining in the E.U has never wavered; it's a core value.
Anyone who truly believes that nothing has changed since June 2016 other than remoaners blocking 'the will of the people' is being wilfully ignorant. First we had 'brexit means brexit', then 'let's get on with it' and now 'it's the will of the people'. Empty slogans for a political deceit.
His wholly party political approach to Brexit. His support (or failure to oppose) of attempts to stifle dissent in his party, including the attempt to eliminate the post of deputy leader. His interference in the disciplinary process. His unwillingness to listen to anyone but an inner circle of advisers. His eternal waffle.
I also dislike the majority of his policies but that has little to do with my opinion of him personally.
Scroungers and Students would love to see Jezza in power but for the rest of the hard working population—-nope.
The guy is toxic.
Thankfully he’s lost the Jewish, Northern and Brexit votes which will wreck his chances.
The guy is toxic.
Thankfully he’s lost the Jewish, Northern and Brexit votes which will wreck his chances.
**** me, not heard that meme for many years. Get with the beat MBF, it's because he's a dangerous Marxist who's going to destroy the fantastic economy the Tories have built over the past 10 years.
Can we all just agree that ALL politicians are absolute cock wombles and that which every way you lean - they are not in it for you or the gen-pop. They are all a bunch of self serving egotistical bellend's who'd sell their own granny for a quick buck.
I'm very interested to have a GE just to see WTF happens. Labour are doing soooo poorly atm with all their infighting and non-commitment to a plan for Brexit and the Liberals/snowflakes are doing well on the left basically taking the stand point they will ignore a national vote so that side is split. Then you have the right and whole thing with the proroguing of parliament will have dented the Tories and possibly split their vote with the Brexit party for people who are adamant we need to come out with out a deal. Then the Irish will vote DUP again because they some how had a minuscule amount of sway last time round and Scots will vote for the SNP because they want out of one union but to stay in another - what a backwards lot they are - I'd genuinely stay in Europe just to prevent them becoming a member of the EU and vetoing their entry
Need a hard line centralist party - have you homosexual, transexual, pansexual, midget orgies or what ever the **** you want to do but if you commit murder/rape/****philia you get the death penalty. Less crimes (e.g. legalise ALL drugs and tax them at 50% and give the majority of that money to the NHS say) much harsher punishments (e.g. caught with a knife of you you get stabbed with your own knife - see how you like it dickspasm).
I'm very interested to have a GE just to see WTF happens. Labour are doing soooo poorly atm with all their infighting and non-commitment to a plan for Brexit and the Liberals/snowflakes are doing well on the left basically taking the stand point they will ignore a national vote so that side is split. Then you have the right and whole thing with the proroguing of parliament will have dented the Tories and possibly split their vote with the Brexit party for people who are adamant we need to come out with out a deal. Then the Irish will vote DUP again because they some how had a minuscule amount of sway last time round and Scots will vote for the SNP because they want out of one union but to stay in another - what a backwards lot they are - I'd genuinely stay in Europe just to prevent them becoming a member of the EU and vetoing their entry
Need a hard line centralist party - have you homosexual, transexual, pansexual, midget orgies or what ever the **** you want to do but if you commit murder/rape/****philia you get the death penalty. Less crimes (e.g. legalise ALL drugs and tax them at 50% and give the majority of that money to the NHS say) much harsher punishments (e.g. caught with a knife of you you get stabbed with your own knife - see how you like it dickspasm).
Personally I find it quite easy to align with Corbyn on quite a few items (I think anyone who has been a labour voter pre Blair would surely think the same?). At the end of it all his voting record is one of a true socialist in my opinion. I can't ignore what a farce the party has become under his leadership though. What I will say in his defence is the shambles the Labour Party is currently is not entirely down to Corbyn. Its many years of dilution of its core values to the point where we now have countless MPs who are massive hypocrites. They don't have true labour values and should not be in the party. I mean we get presented with the popist stuff like the Diane Abbot hypocrisy on private schools along with others, but really that is the tip of the iceberg. So naturally when you have lots of Labour MPs masquerading, of course you are going to end up with countless warring factions.
Corbyns insistence on a neutral stance on Brexit is nothing more than political wavering to wait until they see which way the winds blow. I do have a problem with that at such a critical time. He can badge it up however he ****ing likes, I can see clearly what his game is. Its the same game all of these useless ****s have been playing since the vote - putting their political posturing above the needs of the country. Its no better than what Johnson does himself regularly. Some will see Johnson as worse in some ways because he also takes a position, and then moves when the wind changes rather than just not committing. To me there's no difference.
The media have their say on Corbyn and certain people are clearly controlling the narrative. I don't see him as a communist (there is natural crossover with Corbyns socialism but he is not a communist). I don't see his direction as a problem. He isn't anti-semite either from what I can tell. Just because he supports the palestinian rights and is critical of the Israeli government doesn't make him anti-semite in anyone's eyes except militant Jews who want to white wash over history. I am critical of the Israeli government and I believe the palestinian rights haven't been respected. Does that make me anti semite? We appear to have people who want to prevent freedom of speech and are twisting things.
I suppose I can see why people berate his association with extremists and terrorists. However how are we actually going to overcome things if we don't engage with these people? Bombing the **** out of them doesn't appear to have worked for 60 years before anyone suggests that is how you deal with terrorism. Some of the things that deeply hurt the palestinians and lead to them taking terrorist actions, should have been dealt with now by the international community. Lets not forget either we are deeply mired in this whole thing because of colonial history and we have a moral obligation to help tackle it and bring about peace.
So yeah I think if you remove all the guff about him, my main problem is that is appears unable to unite the party and drag it back it its original values. Being blunt I think Labour is gone, it doesn't exist any longer. Really Corbyn and his allies should splinter off and create a new party. However Corbyn and co want to use the party's standing. Corbyn's other big problem is he is not a natural leader of people. He is a waffler and just doesn't engage well with people at all. There is a place for him within any socialist thinking party - but he is not the person to lead. While the Labour party has its current leadership and warring factions, the Conservatives are rubbing their hands. They can't lose at present.