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Odd that folks would rather defend footballs absolute ****e, corrupt governing bodies rather than agree with an anti-allam statement.

These assumptions, along with the assumption that you were, in part, referring to my previous comment, which, as has been pointed out, I assumed you would make the assumption that your comment about assumptions was from a previous suggested assumption.
 
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These assumptions, along with the assumption that you were, in part, referring to my previous comment, which, as has been pointed out, I assumed you would make the assumption that your comment about assumptions was from a previous suggested assumption.
Are you making assumptions?
 
These assumptions, along with the assumption that you were, in part, referring to my previous comment, which, as has been pointed out, I assumed you would make the assumption that your comment about assumptions was from a previous suggested assumption.
I believe I've been quite clear about that in my previous post. I assume you've read it?

Errr, no. But I promise I did try, all was well with "These" then I got lost
 
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To claim we are a brilliantly ran business is ludicrous. There is no business sense in constantly reducing your costs/overheads when the impact of doing this is that at some stage your turnover will reduce even further. Whilst some will claim the Allams are taking no the risk approach to try and break even in the Championship, if they continue to do so they will relegate us. It might not be this season but if we stay up, I have no doubt we will go down next season. What will they do then? Reduce costs because they need too? Reduce them so far that we then get relegated to League Two?

Reducing costs in isolation is not a great business strategy. If you can reduce costs that don't impact the running of your business or have minimal impact on your business, then fair enough. But the Allams haven't done that, they have reduced costs that have had a hueg impact on their business and will lead to a significant reduction in turnover/income at some point.

A well ran business explores opportunities to expand, and increase revenue (Promotion) and income not constantly reduce costs and not care about their income/revenue streams. We missed a huge opportunity to when we had the parachute payments to push for the Premier League whilst still breaking even/winning promotion. If they had reinvested some of the millions they got from selling Maguire etc... there is no doubt we would have been in the promotion conversation.

The Brentford thing has been done to death, with figures given time and time again, which people choose to ignore. Brentford through development of their old ground will be debt free. This is brilliant business, investing their money wisely into assets that can produce a profit.
 
To claim we are a brilliantly ran business is ludicrous. There is no business sense in constantly reducing your costs/overheads when the impact of doing this is that at some stage your turnover will reduce even further. Whilst some will claim the Allams are taking no the risk approach to try and break even in the Championship, if they continue to do so they will relegate us. It might not be this season but if we stay up, I have no doubt we will go down next season. What will they do then? Reduce costs because they need too? Reduce them so far that we then get relegated to League Two?

Reducing costs in isolation is not a great business strategy. If you can reduce costs that don't impact the running of your business or have minimal impact on your business, then fair enough. But the Allams haven't done that, they have reduced costs that have had a hueg impact on their business and will lead to a significant reduction in turnover/income at some point.

A well ran business explores opportunities to expand, and increase revenue (Promotion) and income not constantly reduce costs and not care about their income/revenue streams. We missed a huge opportunity to when we had the parachute payments to push for the Premier League whilst still breaking even/winning promotion. If they had reinvested some of the millions they got from selling Maguire etc... there is no doubt we would have been in the promotion conversation.

The Brentford thing has been done to death, with figures given time and time again, which people choose to ignore. Brentford through development of their old ground will be debt free. This is brilliant business, investing their money wisely into assets that can produce a profit.

100% agree with the opening sentence.
To alienate and decimate your customer base (along with a range of other key stakeholders) is not how to be a brilliantly run business / best run club. It mattered less in the PL, it matters massively now.
They are absolute idiots when it comes to running a football club business, as is anyone who claims otherwise.
 
100% agree with the opening sentence.
To alienate and decimate your customer base (along with a range of other key stakeholders) is not how to be a brilliantly run business / best run club. It mattered less in the PL, it matters massively now.
They are absolute idiots when it comes to running a football club business, as is anyone who claims otherwise.

Sorry, but this idiot would again venture the suggestion that separating the football club from business makes sense.
 
Sorry, but this idiot would again venture the suggestion that separating the football club from business makes sense.

You can see now why I thought your tongue was a bit filthy from the Allams' backside?

Their business model is terrible and even viewing the club solely as a business is not a positive light for the Allams.
 
You can see now why I thought your tongue was a bit filthy from the Allams' backside?

Their business model is terrible and even viewing the club solely as a business is not a positive light for the Allams.
You're at it again Syd - using insult/abuse as opposed to logic, explanation, reasoning and reading those who oppose your argument in order to force home your opinion.
 
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You can see now why I thought your tongue was a bit filthy from the Allams' backside?

Their business model is terrible and even viewing the club solely as a business is not a positive light for the Allams.


Thank you for explaining the filthy tongue bit. Shall we say, it is a little below the belt? In trying to keep this discussion civilised I will refrain from saying **** off silly ****. Then again, I may not.
 
These assumptions, along with the assumption that you were, in part, referring to my previous comment, which, as has been pointed out, I assumed you would make the assumption that your comment about assumptions was from a previous suggested assumption.
Assumptions - the mother of all ****ups. I assume you knew that?
 
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Thank you for explaining the filthy tongue bit. Shall we say, it is a little below the belt? In trying to keep this discussion civilised I will refrain from saying **** off silly ****. Then again, I may not.

It was a pretty mild and common remark so I'm a bit staggered you needed it explained.

Perhaps if you're going to get so upset at being accused of defending that pair of incompetents, you shouldn't do it.