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  1. Off The Line

    Off The Line Well-Known Member

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    These assumptions, along with the assumption that you were, in part, referring to my previous comment, which, as has been pointed out, I assumed you would make the assumption that your comment about assumptions was from a previous suggested assumption.
     
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  2. spesupersydera

    spesupersydera Well-Known Member

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    That's easy for you to say!
     
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  3. Mr Hatem

    Mr Hatem Well-Known Member

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    Are you making assumptions?
     
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  4. Off The Line

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    I believe I've been quite clear about that in my previous post. I assume you've read it?
     
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  5. Mr Hatem

    Mr Hatem Well-Known Member

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    Don't make assumptions.
     
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  6. Off The Line

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    Believe me, it was never my intention, given the fact that it would have had a derogatory effect, with it being the entire thrust of my argument.
     
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  7. Asterix

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    Errr, no. But I promise I did try, all was well with "These" then I got lost
     
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  8. tigerscanada

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    A "Sir Humphrey" moment loses out to "Hacker" yet again ?
     
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  9. City1904

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    To claim we are a brilliantly ran business is ludicrous. There is no business sense in constantly reducing your costs/overheads when the impact of doing this is that at some stage your turnover will reduce even further. Whilst some will claim the Allams are taking no the risk approach to try and break even in the Championship, if they continue to do so they will relegate us. It might not be this season but if we stay up, I have no doubt we will go down next season. What will they do then? Reduce costs because they need too? Reduce them so far that we then get relegated to League Two?

    Reducing costs in isolation is not a great business strategy. If you can reduce costs that don't impact the running of your business or have minimal impact on your business, then fair enough. But the Allams haven't done that, they have reduced costs that have had a hueg impact on their business and will lead to a significant reduction in turnover/income at some point.

    A well ran business explores opportunities to expand, and increase revenue (Promotion) and income not constantly reduce costs and not care about their income/revenue streams. We missed a huge opportunity to when we had the parachute payments to push for the Premier League whilst still breaking even/winning promotion. If they had reinvested some of the millions they got from selling Maguire etc... there is no doubt we would have been in the promotion conversation.

    The Brentford thing has been done to death, with figures given time and time again, which people choose to ignore. Brentford through development of their old ground will be debt free. This is brilliant business, investing their money wisely into assets that can produce a profit.
     
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  10. Gone For A Walk

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    100% agree with the opening sentence.
    To alienate and decimate your customer base (along with a range of other key stakeholders) is not how to be a brilliantly run business / best run club. It mattered less in the PL, it matters massively now.
    They are absolute idiots when it comes to running a football club business, as is anyone who claims otherwise.
     
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  11. Asterix

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    Sorry, but this idiot would again venture the suggestion that separating the football club from business makes sense.
     
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  12. originallambrettaman

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    Ignoring the fact that it’s a football club, driving down revenue and progressively making your product poorer, is a terrible way to run any business.
     
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  13. SydneyTiger14

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    You can see now why I thought your tongue was a bit filthy from the Allams' backside?

    Their business model is terrible and even viewing the club solely as a business is not a positive light for the Allams.
     
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  14. tigerscanada

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    You're at it again Syd - using insult/abuse as opposed to logic, explanation, reasoning and reading those who oppose your argument in order to force home your opinion.
     
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  15. Mr Hatem

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    Have they only got one backside between them?
     
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    Maybe that explains why they're so full of it.
     
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  17. Gone For A Walk

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    The football club IS the business. The business IS the football club.
    To repeat, 'they are absolute idiots when it comes to running a football club business, as is anyone who claims otherwise'.
     
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  18. Asterix

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    Thank you for explaining the filthy tongue bit. Shall we say, it is a little below the belt? In trying to keep this discussion civilised I will refrain from saying **** off silly ****. Then again, I may not.
     
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  19. The Compositor

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    Assumptions - the mother of all ****ups. I assume you knew that?
     
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  20. SydneyTiger14

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    It was a pretty mild and common remark so I'm a bit staggered you needed it explained.

    Perhaps if you're going to get so upset at being accused of defending that pair of incompetents, you shouldn't do it.
     
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