The Alvarez saga

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Gordon Armstrong

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According to The Sunderland Echo . . . .

Sunderland A.F.C. have been hit with a six-figure penalty regarding player purchase - as the Ricky Alvarez saga comes to an end

Alvarez made the move to the Stadium of Light in 2014, initially on a loan deal from Inter Milan, but having staved off the threat of relegation from the Premier League during Alvarez’s season-long stint on Wearside, Sunderland were obliged to make the deal permanent for a fee of €10.5m.

The Black Cats tried to back away from that agreement, citing that the Italian side would not allow Alvarez to be treated for an injury, but they were later ordered to pay the substantial fee after losing hearings with the Court of Arbitration for Sport and FIFA.

Now, though, the club will have to pay another sum, this time €362,500, for the 31-year-old.

That fee will go direct to his former club, Velez Sarsfield, who were due a solidarity payment from the Black Cats having helped to develop Alvarez.

FIFA ruled in March that Sunderland would have to pay the fee, which equates to roughly £330,000,
to the Argentine side.

A statement on Sarsfield’s website confirmed that the payment was made late last month.

Sunderland will now hope that this final financial outlays closes an unhappy saga concerning a player who was ultimately never a permanent employee of the football club, and now plies his trade for Sampdoria.

An end to it at last . . . . this must have had a bearing on our outlay/transfer dealings this summer <ok>
 
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Gordon Armstrong said:
According to The Sunderland Echo . . . .

Sunderland A.F.C. have been hit with a six-figure penalty regarding player purchase - as the Ricky Alvarez saga comes to an end

Alvarez made the move to the Stadium of Light in 2014, initially on a loan deal from Inter Milan, but having staved off the threat of relegation from the Premier League during Alvarez’s season-long stint on Wearside, Sunderland were obliged to make the deal permanent for a fee of €10.5m.

The Black Cats tried to back away from that agreement, citing that the Italian side would not allow Alvarez to be treated for an injury, but they were later ordered to pay the substantial fee after losing hearings with the Court of Arbitration for Sport and FIFA.

Now, though, the club will have to pay another sum, this time €362,500, for the 31-year-old.

That fee will go direct to his former club, Velez Sarsfield, who were due a solidarity payment from the Black Cats having helped to develop Alvarez.

FIFA ruled in March that Sunderland would have to pay the fee, which equates to roughly £330,000,
to the Argentine side.

A statement on Sarsfield’s website confirmed that the payment was made late last month.

Sunderland will now hope that this final financial outlays closes an unhappy saga concerning a player who was ultimately never a permanent employee of the football club, and now plies his trade for Sampdoria.

An end to it at last . . . . this must have had a bearing on our outlay/transfer dealings this summer <ok>
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Wasn't the Alvarez saga included in the deal between Short/Donald?

You'd have expected Donald to write something into the agreement wouldn't you?
 
Jack TheLad said:
Wasn't the Alvarez saga included in the deal between Short/Donald?

You'd have expected Donald to write something into the agreement wouldn't you?
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I thought so too. Not sure it'll come out of the club more the business prior to Donald taking over
 
We didn't half balls that up. Ten million spent, no player to show for it and he wasn't worth it in the first place.
 
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Worsy thing in all this was the lad was a very talented player, and had inter not blocked the medical side it could have gone a completely different way.

I still call absolute scandal that we were the club ****ed for their negligence.
 
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Gordon Armstrong said:
According to The Sunderland Echo . . . .

Sunderland A.F.C. have been hit with a six-figure penalty regarding player purchase - as the Ricky Alvarez saga comes to an end

Alvarez made the move to the Stadium of Light in 2014, initially on a loan deal from Inter Milan, but having staved off the threat of relegation from the Premier League during Alvarez’s season-long stint on Wearside, Sunderland were obliged to make the deal permanent for a fee of €10.5m.

The Black Cats tried to back away from that agreement, citing that the Italian side would not allow Alvarez to be treated for an injury, but they were later ordered to pay the substantial fee after losing hearings with the Court of Arbitration for Sport and FIFA.

Now, though, the club will have to pay another sum, this time €362,500, for the 31-year-old.

That fee will go direct to his former club, Velez Sarsfield, who were due a solidarity payment from the Black Cats having helped to develop Alvarez.

FIFA ruled in March that Sunderland would have to pay the fee, which equates to roughly £330,000,
to the Argentine side.

A statement on Sarsfield’s website confirmed that the payment was made late last month.

Sunderland will now hope that this final financial outlays closes an unhappy saga concerning a player who was ultimately never a permanent employee of the football club, and now plies his trade for Sampdoria.

An end to it at last . . . . this must have had a bearing on our outlay/transfer dealings this summer <ok>
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Been a complete and utter f*ck up by SAFC and somebody should have been held accountable for this embarrassment.
 
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Thought the player had already settled? Can't see the court offering him an extra penny off a 3rd tier skint club. Common sense has to prevail here.

Please your honor, my career has gone down the ****ter and I'm skint. I already agreed a settlement with the club some time ago but given my life is ****ed I'm going to beg for more, don't mind the club, even though they don't have a pot to piss in.
 
The Italians would not let him get treatment for an injury what does that mean in english ? So he should be made to come back and play for us then if he signed a contract. Should have swapped him for Rodwell.
 
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Ivorlot said:
The Italians would not let him get treatment for an injury what does that mean in english ? So he should be made to come back and play for us then if he signed a contract. Should have swapped him for Rodwell.
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Ivorlot said:
The Italians would not let him get treatment for an injury what does that mean in english ? So he should be made to come back and play for us then if he signed a contract. Should have swapped him for Rodwell.
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Got a point there. If he’s quoting one side of a contract , a good solicitor would point out the non completion of the other side . If SAFC don’ have said good solicitor , a job for you maybe ?
 
So, breaking today on this we are suing the former club doctor for £14million.

Apparently he didn’t oversee the medical, and when given major concerns by those who did, told Ellis it was ‘nothing to worry about’.

Diagnosed issues with the wrong knee, complete ineptitude (we’d heard this before of course from the case against us).

It’s a case we will likely win but whether we see any of the money, I doubt a club doctor has that kind of finance, unless there’s some kind of insurance that covers them for misdemeanours.

Be a massive thing to see any chunk of that money back.
 
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Nads said:
So, breaking today on this we are suing the former club doctor for £14million.

Apparently he didn’t oversee the medical, and when given major concerns by those who did, told Ellis it was ‘nothing to worry about’.

Diagnosed issues with the wrong knee, complete ineptitude (we’d heard this before of course from the case against us).

It’s a case we will likely win but whether we see any of the money, I doubt a club doctor has that kind of finance, unless there’s some kind of insurance that covers them for misdemeanours.

Be a massive thing to see any chunk of that money back.
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There must be some kind of professional indemnity insurance (in medical terms).

This could be huge to be honest, to even see back 10% of that money is huge at this level.

Having said that it's absolute pennies to the Dell Boys <laugh>
 
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/foot...-ricky-alvarez-sue-doctor-13m-ishtiaq-rehman/

Sounds like a very tenuous claim if you believe this article. Apparently, the club doc didn't even carry out the medical because he was away with the first team. Instead, it was carried out by a team of specialists.
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Yeah I read that, but it says they advised about the knee and he signed it off as nothing.

A known issue that Inters doctors had feared he wouldn’t play again at one point, said was ‘nothing’.

Surely we have a case here?
 
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