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Thatcher Dies

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by mighty_stevie_g, Apr 8, 2013.

  1. The artist JerryChristmas

    The artist JerryChristmas "Massive old member"

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    It's good to have you back DD :)
     
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    That's what you get the big money for. :)
     
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    I think I didn't read the small print correctly then!
     
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  4. Klopp's Mannschaft

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    Getting bored of all the media coverage now...

    Bunch of rich, upper class ****s burying their heads up her lifeless rectum because they have to be seen saying positive stuff in public. Just like managers really. Useless, feelingless drivel.

    Apart from those rich, upper class ****s who got rich because of Maggie. They actually believe the **** they speak <doh>
     
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  5. Noblelox

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    Britain wasn't some great lush utopia before Thatcher, and unions were totally out of hand and something did need to be done, it still does, I would never join a union, as they do far more to damage the economy than help it. Generally Unions help their members and damn the consequences. However, what this bitch did was pure evil and over the top and she enjoyed it.

    The problem I have with your naive outlook, is that it is far too simplistic. It is much like the age old argument from childless people who moan and complain about paying for things like education or child benefits, totally forgetting that they were children once, and also, who will be their doctor when they are 78 and sick, if everyone took their selfish attitude of not having any kids?

    If we were to play out your ideal world, we would have the riots we had in the 1820's when the rich thought it was great to be rich and to **** the rest, well the rest get pissed off and can burn your big house down. You only have to look at when the tories are in power, as each time that happens there are riots, because the thick tory bastards always over simplify their policies and treat everything as black and white, the most recent example is this spare-room tax. The tories, or the tick twats who vote them in, never learn from history, the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer ALWAYS causes public unrest, but each time they try it again, trying to hide what they are doing, but each time they are found out and there are riots.

    Yes it is frustrating to dwell on the scroungers, but that is a small percentage of people who need some sort of propping up. Where would you be with no bin-men? hardly a taxing job, but it needs doing, and you are not really going to pay a great deal to get someone to do it, but you cannot squeeze the income of a bin-man too much before he is up in arms, just because the tories don't respect him in the slightest, and think he is there to be walked all over.

    Look at it this way, compare it to the common agricultural policy.. Do you want to pay £3 for a pint of milk? Or do you want Europe to pay £2.50 of your taxes to the farmer, and for you to only pay 50p for that pint? Either way it costs £3 for that pint. Same with low paying jobs. Either pay the bin-man and his cleaner wife £35,000 each, or swallow the hidden taxes that mean they have an acceptable quality of life. But if you tell the farmer, you are only giving him 50p, or the bin-man that he can't have top up benefits, then both will tell you to **** off and you get no milk and your bins are overflowing and you have rats, all because you feel you should keep your money for yourself. It is never that simple!
     
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  6. Noblelox

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  7. Toela65

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    No point mate.

    Besides Brixton and Dagenham its all "the London Bubble" effect. They never experience ANY of the suffering we did up here. They didn't have their close knit working-class communities ripped to pieces, they didn't have their livelihoods snatched away for them for no other reason than committing the crime of working in the Public Sector. They didn't have or see people close to them going without food, cold, and attempting, sometimes successfully, to commit suicide because they had no hope left and couldn't face failure as a Father for not being able to put bread on the table and provide for his family.

    The people in the "London bubble" will never fully understand why that **** was so evil and why good, normal, honest, hardworking, friendly and honourable people were moved to publically celebrating the ****s death in public in Glasgow, Liverpool, Brixton and Manchester.

    Its the same now with the Banking crisis and the double-dip recession that followed. People in the "city" have no idea what this recession is or whats going on outside of their bubble to families all over the country.

    Like a reporter and commentator said last year "for many, in London but also many parts of the South East and South West, there is no recession and there never has been since the credit crunch kicked in.

    If Thatcher hadn't sold out our complete manufacturing and utilities/power industry to foreign businesses for them to make a fortune out of us and not put a penny of that back into our Country through Privatisation, people in the North may have also been in that bubble too.
     
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  8. Toela65

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    That is around 0.001% of the benefit recipients though I've seen esitmated.

    What about the overwhelming majority of people who are on benefits and have paid in most of their lives and need the benefits to get by? Do these millions of people deserve to be collateral damage in a war against a few spongers?

    I'm all for stopping benefit spongers and would support it if it was done in a way that ONLY penalised the Sponger and not those who were legitimately claiming benefits.

    What the right wing Tory-led Government is doing is using the demonisation of a few spongers to cut benefits to EVERYBODY on benefits whether they deserve it or not, whether they've paid in or not, whether they need it to exist or not.

    I can't support that and neither should any charitable and compassionate human being with even a smidgeon of empathy.

    There are so many more sensible things that could be cut, like Trident, MPs expenses, overseas aid (not against it it should just be further down the priorities list ATM) that won't cause people to go hungry, or lose peoples houses etc, but they pick on welfare because they want to, because its ideological.

    Just like you and your other right wing ******s who are so misinformed, you are always led by ideology whether its good Politics or not, whether its good for the Country or not, and this is a perfect example. You people just cannot stand, cannot abide the fact that anybody, ANYBODY, whether they have paid in or not, whether they need/deserve it or not, can get taxpayer money (thats the well off people who actually bother to pay any tax in the first place mind) without working for it.

    It really is that simple with the Righties. It soon changes though once its THEM or a loved one who falls on bad times and needs Govt and Taxpayers assistance. Its the same ideology as right wingers in the US who feel sick at the idea of the Govt providing free healthcare to its citizens. If they can't afford healthcare then tough, they can die. Stand on your own two feet and all that bullshit. It comes down to what Thatcher put into overdrive in the UK GREED and selfishness. Me, me, me, mine, mine, mine and **** everyone else, they can get on their bike etc.

    Makes me ****ing sick to the pit of my stomach some people in this country. I often dream of moving to Scandinavia where there is real Socilaism, real opportunites for all and they achieve this society at the same time of looking after each other and promoting the idea of community. Nothing bad has happened to them. Well, except Anders Breivig and what was his Political side of the aisle again? oh...right.....
     
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  9. Toela65

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    Did he really say that first paragraph?

    Really? no way. Not even someone with a pea-brain the size of HIAG would be that deluded and down right thick.

    I always thought that when Liverpools fans where held up to the cold light of witty critique all that came of it was that we are still the most successful English Footbal club of all time, still one of the biggest clubs in the country, and probably always will be, and that Spurs would do well to maybe learn lessons from us on how to successfully fill an empty trophy cabinet, although they could learn that lesson from the Mancs, Arsenal, hell even Chelsea.

    They have never achieved anything of note on a continental or global scale, most people in Asia have never even heard of them, yet to listen to them speak you would think they had achieved more than most and where up there with us and the Mancs.

    Football is cyclical. They have no massive global fanbase, no oil money and a small stadium with no signs yet of this new one starting to be built or when it could be finished. Without at least one of these things as soon as their better players, well Bale, leaves to bigger and better things, they'll be finished. Levy won't spend. he never has and he never will.

    In 5 years time they'll be back to midtable mediocrity while we'll beck in the CL every season.

    Their just irrelevant really, in the same way Everton are.
     
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  10. Toela65

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    This thread is quite simply a response to the thread they hvae about us.

    In their thread about us they speak a load of untrue, unfactual, biased, hateful ****e and not one of their Mods seems to see any problem with it due to "free speech" so I'd expect our Mods to respond in kind.

    In this thread I will be simply reflecting the **** I see in the Mouser thread so as it works both ways. We can talk just as much one sided bullshit as they can.
     
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  11. Gucci.Mane

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    This is where i'm coming from ,I started work and paying taxes and Ni at the age of 16 and worked up until I was 42 the last 13 years as self employed.Due to my wife becoming ill through her work (multipe injections given over too short a period) I now find myself relying on the benefits system because i had to give up work to care for my wife.So excuse me if i'm a little pissed off at some of the attitudes on this topic.
    We are now seen in the eyes of many thanks to the Sh*te rhetoric of this coalition as scroungers and are going to see are income reduce in real terms as the benefits are capped at 1% which is lower than rate of inflation.Oh and the fact that i need to sleep separately from my wife due to her illness isn't enough to stop the Ar%eholes from hitting me with bedroom tax as well.Carers like me save this country £119 BILLION a year..http://fullfact.org/factchecks/cost_social_care_uk_health_nhs-2701.,but hey let's not let this get in the way of demonising the unfortunates and getting the public to look at the smaller picture while the bigger one goes unnoticed.
     
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  12. totsfan

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    we paid 1.8 million pounds for him,his dad is English and supports Everton,and he is a german international
     
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  13. BBFs Unpopular View

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    3 pages already<laugh>


    Off to a good start.


    For any mashed potatoes to be having any sort of problem with this thread after the slurs thrown at Liverpool, it's players, the city its self and the fans is idiocy of epic proportions and indicative of how thick and childish they are<ok>
     
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  14. BBFs Unpopular View

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    Especially when HIAG is protected by their mods, you can't even be perceived to be wum'n their members on the Mouser thread or it's 606 style modding, all you have to do is pick apart a weak argument and you get called a wum. How stupid it is to be deleting posts just cos they don't like them. I didn't even get a warning, they just banned me<ok>

    HIAG is a poor wum, when you simple mention the massive trophy haul spurs have won, or even point out that this struggling Liverpool side of the last decade have won more in that time than Spurs have ever won, they cry lots and insult you, then ban you.

    Anyhoo.

    Spurs yet again look to get the 4th place cup and call it success, forgetting that getting 4th place just gets you a chance to qualify to enter a tournament, once they never ever have any chance of winning.

    Of course I just can't understand how such a world class player like Bale, of whom HIAG mentions in the same breath as Messi and Ronaldo<yikes> won't be appearing in yet another Champions League campaign.

    Football is at a loss that such a one trick pony won't be playing with all the actual great players in Europe but at least he is imortalised in Donkey Kong and Planet of the Apes.
     
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    Oh, I could be wrong about Spurs, they did win the League Cup in 2008 <laugh> They celebrated it as the pinnacle of footballing achievement but since we bagged it last year it's worth has lessened<doh> What's all this of history, I can see why they like to talk of it all being history, cos theirs is bleak:) Spurs are the Siberian winter of footballing history
     
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    Spurs have won less total than Liverpool have league titles alone.

    On total honours list.. Note the position of
    • 1 Liverpool FC 18 7 8 5 3 0 41 Last won2012 LC
    • 6 TottenHaha 2 8 4 0 3 0 17 Last won 2008 LC <yikes>

    Aston Villa have more major honours than Spurs and that other London club actually<laugh>
     
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    they did manage a double in the 1960/1961 season <laugh>
     
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    No one would sponsor them in 82/83 they are than small a club <ok>
     
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  19. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Hardly the ****ing point is it?
     
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    <laugh> Replied to your reply PM <ok>
     
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