Damn at least I was famous for 15 mins, this was a copy and paste from FB just thought I try a wind up not working though. 
Thatcher Dies
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Jimmy. Look at the link Redreggy posted above
Good read
- and I'm not surprised to be honest.When I 'criticised' the socialist ideology, it doesn't mean that the capitalist ideology is perfect. These companies should be paying their tax just like everyone else. However, the 'system' allows them to do this, just like how the system allows people to abuse the benefit system.
On the flip side, these big companies contribute to society by buying/renting property and providing jobs which then goes back into the economy. Can we afford to piss them off and see them leave to another country? The same could be applied when Thatcher shut down and sold industries. These same businesses employed a lot of people ...
Good read
When I 'criticised' the socialist ideology, it doesn't mean that the capitalist ideology is perfect. These companies should be paying their tax just like everyone else. However, the 'system' allows them to do this, just like how the system allows people to abuse the benefit system.
On the flip side, these big companies contribute to society by buying/renting property and providing jobs which then goes back into the economy. Can we afford to piss them off and see them leave to another country? The same could be applied when Thatcher shut down and sold industries. These same businesses employed a lot of people ...
typical middle class I worry about me and my family attitude mate sorry but the same attitude has Ireland in the state it is in. It has to go beyond you and your family, the I'm alright **** you jack attitude is to the detriment to society.
The right are totally and utterly corruptible because your careers means everything to you.
What good is it all if everything goes to **** around you even though you and yours are ok? No good at all.
Bluff City Red:4551080 said:
Bit of an empty gesture.
Mr. Whelan can't hold his mouth shut that long.
Counter productive having a minute silence anywhere north of Brum for her as it would turn into a minute of booing.
If the 50% of the population that think she is Satan let the 50% that don't have her funeral... that is enough... let those who like her attend it but certainly don't expect football teams to give a minute silence... at best that would be hypocrasy.
Not at all. In the era that I grew up in, I am used to people scrounging off benefits and not working - the everything for nothing culture. My taxes are paying for 17 years old to get pregnant and free accommodation etc etc. That is why I do not like socialism in that respect.
My view on socialism is somewhat skewered as I wasn't around during the pre Thatcher era so I couldn't see the benefits and the plus points of it. I would be happy paying taxes to support people who genuinely need my money to help them get through a bad patch. Unfortunately, I see too many people abusing this system and I simply do not trust them.
"let the 50% that don't have her funeral... that is enough... let those who like her attend it "
The People's Tyrant.
The People's Tyrant.
That's the problem with following narrow ideologies. It never seems enough to apply it to your individual life you have to insist everyone else does too. It made Thatcher a bully but she appears to not be alone.....
Good read
When I 'criticised' the socialist ideology, it doesn't mean that the capitalist ideology is perfect. These companies should be paying their tax just like everyone else. However, the 'system' allows them to do this, just like how the system allows people to abuse the benefit system.
On the flip side, these big companies contribute to society by buying/renting property and providing jobs which then goes back into the economy. Can we afford to piss them off and see them leave to another country? The same could be applied when Thatcher shut down and sold industries. These same businesses employed a lot of people ...
Jimmy whilst I, saint and Red would love to give you our interpretation of Socialist theory and policy, I don't really think that a football forum is the right place to undertake that. Suffice to say that one of the main differentiators between Communism and Socialism is the need for a mixed economy wherein private enterprise and the pursuit of momentary profit is not only allowed but also embraced.
Jimmy, you have never seen a Socialist administration. New Labour had nothing ideologically to do with socialist principles.
I'd be more concerned about the billions that we all have to pay out to collapsed banks, whilst those that caused it are all exceptionally rich off the back of it, despite making astounding mistakes.
Sir James Crosby has generously decided to forfeit his knighthood and give back 30% of his £580,000-a-year pension, though.
I hope he'll manage to scrape by on about eight grand a week.
Another point worth making: At the moment you are capable of working hard and supporting yourself and your family, fair enough.
But what if something happened and you were no longer able to do that? You would have the safety net of that very same welfare state that you are suspicious of. The richest people in the country, if they fell on hard times, would be helped by the very system they despise.
The drain on the country's resources through unnecessary benefits is tiny, and trying to claw back a few quid from the poor whilst making it as easy as possible for the rich to maintain their wealth is typical of an outdated class- driven tory mentality.
How people can't see how immoral that is is frankly beyond me.
Good points. My issue is more to do with the attitude and culture, rather than the system itself. Hopefully, I won't need to claim benefits but I would be grateful should the need ever arise. However, I will be desperate to find a job and resume working. My perception of the benefits system is that others are just happy picking up their dole money. In addition, the benefits system is a system that I contribute to and have done since I was 16.
In addition, I don't condone the banks behaviour. I hate them as well.
"The drain on the country's resources through unnecessary benefits is tiny, and trying to claw back a few quid from the poor whilst making it as easy as possible for the rich to maintain their wealth is typical of an outdated class- driven tory mentality."
Yes, but because of all these feckless bums and their so-called 'disabilities' we were only able to bail out the banks to the tune of £1.16 trillion. No wonder the poor buggers are having to give up a third of their pensions. The poor should have donated their kidneys and sold some of their children to Findus to put into cottage pies.
Yes, but because of all these feckless bums and their so-called 'disabilities' we were only able to bail out the banks to the tune of £1.16 trillion. No wonder the poor buggers are having to give up a third of their pensions. The poor should have donated their kidneys and sold some of their children to Findus to put into cottage pies.
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