You haven't got a clue what Thatchers reign was all about as you weren't even born
Take it from those who lived through that horrors era, she was a total twat
Thatcher Dies
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You haven't got a clue what Thatchers reign was all about as you weren't even born
Take it from those who lived through that horrors era, she was a total twat
Thatchers Britain, poor people who wanted to work ,who didnt have the chance. I was a child in the 80s, but my parents and grandparents taught me what sort of person Thatcher was
Boys from the Blackstuff, IMO the best TV series EVER,and a true reflection of the suffering and misery inflicted on the working classes during Thatchers Britain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd6-MIEaPco
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsN7MJodPvE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C6_xzYMeC4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC1QmXCg0i0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oSG65HVL_g
Boys from the Blackstuff, IMO the best TV series EVER,and a true reflection of the suffering and misery inflicted on the working classes during Thatchers Britain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd6-MIEaPco
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsN7MJodPvE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C6_xzYMeC4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC1QmXCg0i0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oSG65HVL_g
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Super G Ted'inho
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Everyone is entitled to an opinion but trying to push a view about Thatcher onto others is never going to go down well 
Can't say I totally agree with the celebrating / partying. End of the day a person as died and that person had family etc so IMO, respect should always be shown in death. However, on the other side of the coin, I really couldn't care less about her dying either. If anything, I would have preferred her to have lived (with an able mind) for longer so she could get the **** she deserved regarding Hillsborough thrown back at her!
PS...listening to Radio 5 and Cameron is talking. Saying she saved the country etc
Can't say I totally agree with the celebrating / partying. End of the day a person as died and that person had family etc so IMO, respect should always be shown in death. However, on the other side of the coin, I really couldn't care less about her dying either. If anything, I would have preferred her to have lived (with an able mind) for longer so she could get the **** she deserved regarding Hillsborough thrown back at her!
PS...listening to Radio 5 and Cameron is talking. Saying she saved the country etc
George and Degsy's take on it.
He also wrote: “Thatcher described Nelson Mandela as a “terrorist”. I was there. I saw her lips move. May she burn in hellfires.”
Another of her political opponents from the 1980s, Derek Hatton, a former deputy leader of Liverpool city council, wrote: "The issue isn't about whether she is now dead, I regret for the sake of millions of people that she was ever born."
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One of the first to register his glee at her death was Respect MP George Galloway who posted the message, “Tramp the dirt down” a reference to the Elvis Costello song that talked about jumping up and down on her grave.He also wrote: “Thatcher described Nelson Mandela as a “terrorist”. I was there. I saw her lips move. May she burn in hellfires.”
Another of her political opponents from the 1980s, Derek Hatton, a former deputy leader of Liverpool city council, wrote: "The issue isn't about whether she is now dead, I regret for the sake of millions of people that she was ever born."
George and Degsy's take on it.
You must log in or register to see imagesOne of the first to register his glee at her death was Respect MP George Galloway who posted the message, “Tramp the dirt down” a reference to the Elvis Costello song that talked about jumping up and down on her grave.
He also wrote: “Thatcher described Nelson Mandela as a “terrorist”. I was there. I saw her lips move. May she burn in hellfires.”
Another of her political opponents from the 1980s, Derek Hatton, a former deputy leader of Liverpool city council, wrote: "The issue isn't about whether she is now dead, I regret for the sake of millions of people that she was ever born."
Two men who have the guts to speak honestly about her
The fawning & revisionism I've seen today has made me want to puke
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Super G Ted'inho
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David Cameron led tributes to Lady Thatcher from across the British political spectrum on Monday as senior politicians sought to acknowledge and define her legacy.
The prime minister cut short a European tour to return to the UK on hearing news of her death. In a statement, he said: "It was with great sadness that I learned of the death of Lady Thatcher. We have lost a great leader, a great prime minister and a great Briton."
The news was broken to Cameron while he was in Madrid, where he was meeting the Spanish prime minister, Mariano Rajoy.
The Queen was said to be saddened by the news. Buckingham Palace said in a statement: "The Queen was sad to hear the news of the death of Baroness Thatcher. Her Majesty will be sending a private message of sympathy to the family."
Opposition figures, mindful that many of their own supporters will never forgive Thatcher for her more radical policies, issued carefully drafted statements. Ed Miliband, the Labour leader, said: "She will be remembered as a unique figure. She reshaped the politics of a whole generation. She was Britain's first woman prime minister. She moved the centre ground of British politics and was a huge figure on the world stage.
"The Labour party disagreed with much of what she did and she will always remain a controversial figure. But we can disagree and also greatly respect her political achievements and her personal strength.
"She also defined the politics of the 1980s. David Cameron, Nick Clegg and I all grew up in a politics shaped by Lady Thatcher. We took different paths but with her as the crucial figure of that era.
"She coped with her final, difficult years with dignity and courage. Critics and supporters will remember her in her prime," he said.
The Liberal Democrat leader, Nick Clegg, said: "Margaret Thatcher was one of the defining figures in modern British politics. Whatever side of the political debate you stand on, no one can deny that as prime minister she left a unique and lasting imprint on the country she served.
"She may have divided opinion during her time in politics but everyone will be united today in acknowledging the strength of her personality and the radicalism of her politics. My thoughts are with her family and friends."
Former prime minister Tony Blair described Thatcher as "a towering political figure" and in an acknowledgement that they became friendly, referred to her by her first name.
"Very few leaders get to change not only the political landscape of their country but of the world. Margaret was such a leader. Her global impact was vast. And some of the changes she made in Britain were, in certain respects at least, retained by the 1997 Labour government, and came to be implemented by governments around the world," he said.
Former Conservative prime minister Sir John Major, who fell out with Thatcher over her criticisms of his premiership, described her as a "true force of nature" and a "political phenomenon".
"In government, the UK was turned around under â and in large measure because of â her leadership. Her reforms of the economy, trades union law, and her recovery of the Falkland Islands elevated her above normal politics, and may not have been achieved under any other leader," he said.
"Her outstanding characteristics will always be remembered by those who worked closely with her: courage and determination in politics, and humanity and generosity of spirit in private," he added.
Two of her closest political rivals also issued statements. The former Conservative deputy prime minister Lord Heseltine, who became Thatcher's fierce political rival after resigning from her cabinet, said: "I am sorry to learn of Lady Thatcher's death. The illness of her last years has been cruel and very difficult. I send my deepest condolences to Mark and Carol."
Neil Kinnock, the Labour leader who fought and lost an election against her in 1987, said: "I recognise and admire the great distinction of Baroness Thatcher as the first woman to become leader of a major UK political party and prime minister.
"I am sorry to hear of her death and offer my sympathy to her family."
Among senior Conservatives, the work and pensions secretary, Iain Duncan Smith, said Thatcher was "the reason I came into politics".
"Watching her set out to change Britain for the better in 1979 made me believe there was, at last, real purpose and real leadership in politics once again. She bestrode the political world like a colossus."
The senior Tory MP David Davis said: "Margaret Thatcher was the greatest of modern British prime ministers, and was central to the huge transformation of the whole world that took place after the fall of the Soviet Union.
"Millions of people in Britain and around the world owe her a debt of gratitude for their freedom and their quality of life, which was made possible by her courageous commitment to the principles of individual freedom and responsibility. Her passing is a very sad event and she will be greatly missed."
The London mayor, Boris Johnson, said on Twitter: "Very sad to hear of death of Baroness Thatcher. Her memory will live long after the world has forgotten the grey suits of today's politics."
The Ukip leader, Nigel Farage, said: "I have always said that Mrs Thatcher was a great inspiration to me personally. Whether you loved her or hated her nobody could deny that she was a great patriot, who believed passionately in this country and her people. A towering figure in recent British and political history has passed from the stage. Our thoughts and prayers are with her family."
Others were less generous in their reactions to news of her death. The Sinn Féin president, Gerry Adams, said Thatcher had long been vilified in republican circles over her involvement in Northern Ireland, in particular for her handling of the IRA hunger strikes inside the Maze prison in the early 1980s. She was a leading target of the IRA in the 1980s, which nearly succeeded in killing her in the deadly Brighton bomb blast of 1984.
"Margaret Thatcher did great hurt to the Irish and British people during her time as British prime minister. Working-class communities were devastated in Britain because of her policies.
"Here in Ireland her espousal of old draconian militaristic policies prolonged the war and caused great suffering," he said.
Adams accused her of embracing censorship, collusion and the use of lethal force in covert operations.
"Her failed efforts to criminalise the republican struggle and the political prisoners is part of her legacy."
"Margaret Thatcher will be especially remembered for her shameful role during the epic hunger strikes of 1980 and 81. Her Irish policy failed miserably," he said.
George Galloway, the leader and sole MP of the Respect party, tweeted the words "tramp the dirt down" â a reference to an Elvis Costello 1989 song that included the lines: "When they finally put you in the ground I'll stand on your grave and tramp the dirt down".
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The prime minister cut short a European tour to return to the UK on hearing news of her death. In a statement, he said: "It was with great sadness that I learned of the death of Lady Thatcher. We have lost a great leader, a great prime minister and a great Briton."
The news was broken to Cameron while he was in Madrid, where he was meeting the Spanish prime minister, Mariano Rajoy.
The Queen was said to be saddened by the news. Buckingham Palace said in a statement: "The Queen was sad to hear the news of the death of Baroness Thatcher. Her Majesty will be sending a private message of sympathy to the family."
Opposition figures, mindful that many of their own supporters will never forgive Thatcher for her more radical policies, issued carefully drafted statements. Ed Miliband, the Labour leader, said: "She will be remembered as a unique figure. She reshaped the politics of a whole generation. She was Britain's first woman prime minister. She moved the centre ground of British politics and was a huge figure on the world stage.
"The Labour party disagreed with much of what she did and she will always remain a controversial figure. But we can disagree and also greatly respect her political achievements and her personal strength.
"She also defined the politics of the 1980s. David Cameron, Nick Clegg and I all grew up in a politics shaped by Lady Thatcher. We took different paths but with her as the crucial figure of that era.
"She coped with her final, difficult years with dignity and courage. Critics and supporters will remember her in her prime," he said.
The Liberal Democrat leader, Nick Clegg, said: "Margaret Thatcher was one of the defining figures in modern British politics. Whatever side of the political debate you stand on, no one can deny that as prime minister she left a unique and lasting imprint on the country she served.
"She may have divided opinion during her time in politics but everyone will be united today in acknowledging the strength of her personality and the radicalism of her politics. My thoughts are with her family and friends."
Former prime minister Tony Blair described Thatcher as "a towering political figure" and in an acknowledgement that they became friendly, referred to her by her first name.
"Very few leaders get to change not only the political landscape of their country but of the world. Margaret was such a leader. Her global impact was vast. And some of the changes she made in Britain were, in certain respects at least, retained by the 1997 Labour government, and came to be implemented by governments around the world," he said.
Former Conservative prime minister Sir John Major, who fell out with Thatcher over her criticisms of his premiership, described her as a "true force of nature" and a "political phenomenon".
"In government, the UK was turned around under â and in large measure because of â her leadership. Her reforms of the economy, trades union law, and her recovery of the Falkland Islands elevated her above normal politics, and may not have been achieved under any other leader," he said.
"Her outstanding characteristics will always be remembered by those who worked closely with her: courage and determination in politics, and humanity and generosity of spirit in private," he added.
Two of her closest political rivals also issued statements. The former Conservative deputy prime minister Lord Heseltine, who became Thatcher's fierce political rival after resigning from her cabinet, said: "I am sorry to learn of Lady Thatcher's death. The illness of her last years has been cruel and very difficult. I send my deepest condolences to Mark and Carol."
Neil Kinnock, the Labour leader who fought and lost an election against her in 1987, said: "I recognise and admire the great distinction of Baroness Thatcher as the first woman to become leader of a major UK political party and prime minister.
"I am sorry to hear of her death and offer my sympathy to her family."
Among senior Conservatives, the work and pensions secretary, Iain Duncan Smith, said Thatcher was "the reason I came into politics".
"Watching her set out to change Britain for the better in 1979 made me believe there was, at last, real purpose and real leadership in politics once again. She bestrode the political world like a colossus."
The senior Tory MP David Davis said: "Margaret Thatcher was the greatest of modern British prime ministers, and was central to the huge transformation of the whole world that took place after the fall of the Soviet Union.
"Millions of people in Britain and around the world owe her a debt of gratitude for their freedom and their quality of life, which was made possible by her courageous commitment to the principles of individual freedom and responsibility. Her passing is a very sad event and she will be greatly missed."
The London mayor, Boris Johnson, said on Twitter: "Very sad to hear of death of Baroness Thatcher. Her memory will live long after the world has forgotten the grey suits of today's politics."
The Ukip leader, Nigel Farage, said: "I have always said that Mrs Thatcher was a great inspiration to me personally. Whether you loved her or hated her nobody could deny that she was a great patriot, who believed passionately in this country and her people. A towering figure in recent British and political history has passed from the stage. Our thoughts and prayers are with her family."
Others were less generous in their reactions to news of her death. The Sinn Féin president, Gerry Adams, said Thatcher had long been vilified in republican circles over her involvement in Northern Ireland, in particular for her handling of the IRA hunger strikes inside the Maze prison in the early 1980s. She was a leading target of the IRA in the 1980s, which nearly succeeded in killing her in the deadly Brighton bomb blast of 1984.
"Margaret Thatcher did great hurt to the Irish and British people during her time as British prime minister. Working-class communities were devastated in Britain because of her policies.
"Here in Ireland her espousal of old draconian militaristic policies prolonged the war and caused great suffering," he said.
Adams accused her of embracing censorship, collusion and the use of lethal force in covert operations.
"Her failed efforts to criminalise the republican struggle and the political prisoners is part of her legacy."
"Margaret Thatcher will be especially remembered for her shameful role during the epic hunger strikes of 1980 and 81. Her Irish policy failed miserably," he said.
George Galloway, the leader and sole MP of the Respect party, tweeted the words "tramp the dirt down" â a reference to an Elvis Costello 1989 song that included the lines: "When they finally put you in the ground I'll stand on your grave and tramp the dirt down".
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And from self-imposed exile.....
Well, it's very apt she went the same way as Stalin. A whole host of Latin American dictators would have been there to meet her this morning, but we'll have to ask Mackenzie, as beelzebub's representative on Earth, whether it's true she's already closed down two furnaces and privatised six of the seven layers of Hell. Probably be riots in Hades when Satan's little helpers are forced to pay poll tax.
Well, been off the drink for nearly two years, but I'm truly tempted tonight , and I hope the council will put some sort of party on in Liverpool, with top NW bands volunteering to play for free. I'm sure Elvis Costello, for one, would play, and the proceeds go to unemployed miners. One thing for sure though, \I for one won't be a ****ing hypocrite pretending it's bad news, any more than Republican Spaniards were supposed to pretend the death of Franco was a bad thing. **** her, her jackals in the press and slimebags like blair with his effusive fawning tonight. Cocksuckers.
Bliss it is to be alive upon this dawn.
Well, it's very apt she went the same way as Stalin. A whole host of Latin American dictators would have been there to meet her this morning, but we'll have to ask Mackenzie, as beelzebub's representative on Earth, whether it's true she's already closed down two furnaces and privatised six of the seven layers of Hell. Probably be riots in Hades when Satan's little helpers are forced to pay poll tax.
Well, been off the drink for nearly two years, but I'm truly tempted tonight , and I hope the council will put some sort of party on in Liverpool, with top NW bands volunteering to play for free. I'm sure Elvis Costello, for one, would play, and the proceeds go to unemployed miners. One thing for sure though, \I for one won't be a ****ing hypocrite pretending it's bad news, any more than Republican Spaniards were supposed to pretend the death of Franco was a bad thing. **** her, her jackals in the press and slimebags like blair with his effusive fawning tonight. Cocksuckers.
Bliss it is to be alive upon this dawn.
Its fair to say that the TV channels have got the public feeling on this issue totally wrong, the majority of the north of england,all of wales,scotland and ireland couldnt stand the woman, that isnt coming across on the tv,which is quite disturbing and will have to change.People, tens of millions hated her, that has to come across in there programmes
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Super G Ted'inho
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And from self-imposed exile.....
Well, it's very apt she went the same way as Stalin. A whole host of Latin American dictators would have been there to meet her this morning, but we'll have to ask Mackenzie, as beelzebub's representative on Earth, whether it's true she's already closed down two furnaces and privatised six of the seven layers of Hell. Probably be riots in Hades when Satan's little helpers are forced to pay poll tax.
Well, been off the drink for nearly two years, but I'm truly tempted tonight , and I hope the council will put some sort of party on in Liverpool, with top NW bands volunteering to play for free. I'm sure Elvis Costello, for one, would play, and the proceeds go to unemployed miners. One thing for sure though, \I for one won't be a ****ing hypocrite pretending it's bad news, any more than Republican Spaniards were supposed to pretend the death of Franco was a bad thing. **** her, her jackals in the press and slimebags like blair with his effusive fawning tonight. Cocksuckers.
Bliss it is to be alive upon this dawn.
Excellent post, from an excellent poster
And from self-imposed exile.....
Well, it's very apt she went the same way as Stalin. A whole host of Latin American dictators would have been there to meet her this morning, but we'll have to ask Mackenzie, as beelzebub's representative on Earth, whether it's true she's already closed down two furnaces and privatised six of the seven layers of Hell. Probably be riots in Hades when Satan's little helpers are forced to pay poll tax.
Well, been off the drink for nearly two years, but I'm truly tempted tonight , and I hope the council will put some sort of party on in Liverpool, with top NW bands volunteering to play for free. I'm sure Elvis Costello, for one, would play, and the proceeds go to unemployed miners. One thing for sure though, \I for one won't be a ****ing hypocrite pretending it's bad news, any more than Republican Spaniards were supposed to pretend the death of Franco was a bad thing. **** her, her jackals in the press and slimebags like blair with his effusive fawning tonight. Cocksuckers.
Bliss it is to be alive upon this dawn.
What about some self imposed repatriation..
Everyone is entitled to an opinion but trying to push a view about Thatcher onto others is never going to go down well
Can't say I totally agree with the celebrating / partying. End of the day a person as died and that person had family etc so IMO, respect should always be shown in death. However, on the other side of the coin, I really couldn't care less about her dying either. If anything, I would have preferred her to have lived (with an able mind) for longer so she could get the **** she deserved regarding Hillsborough thrown back at her!
PS...listening to Radio 5 and Cameron is talking. Saying she saved the country etc
Bollox!
When Caesar got stabbed, and not in the rear like he liked but actually stabbed I am sure everyone cried, NOT, you celebrate the death of a tyrant
Just turned Radio 5 off because they were doing my head in with it
Yeah its annoying me too.
Fronting itself as a debate but the presenter is clearly pro-Thatcher.
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Super G Ted'inho
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Bollox!
When Caesar got stabbed, and not in the rear like he liked but actually stabbed I am sure everyone cried, NOT, you celebrate the death of a tyrant
Each to their own pal, I could never celebrate someones death (like in the videos above) but I understand peoples comments and feelings too
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Super G Ted'inho
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Switched to Talk Sport, no mention of her in twenty minutes so far
Its Toffs and the odd Cockney on one side, and Northern England, Scotland, Wales and the odd Cockney on the other.
I won't ever celebrate someone death (except maybe Gary Neville), but she certainly destroyed a lot of peoples lives.
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Super G Ted'inho
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I wouldn't even celebrate the death of someone like Charles Branson or Peter Sutcliffe etc, the respect is towards their friends and families, not the individual who as past, they will never see your reaction anyway.