Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Could you imagine the furore amongst the supporters if someone was brought in with "long term aims" who then failed to keep us up? You wouldn't be able to tell the supporters that it had been decided to write-off the season - given up - and would start again next season. Who would take such a job? No up-and-coming manager would touch us with a barge pole if that was on the table. This is actually what happened with Harry. We went down and had to start rebuilding. There were a lot of tossers (brought in by NW and MH) that had to go. He had to rebuild. Maybe we should have taken two of three years to rebuild the club/team in the Championship, but then you start looking at the teams who have been relegated (or come within a whisker of it) almost immediately down to Div 1. Look at the bottom 5 in the Championship this week. Birmingham, Wigan, Fulham, Blackpool, Bolton. It was not so long ago since they were in the Premiership. Harry did what was asked of him. Straight back to the premiership (more by luck than judgement in the end) but we HAD to get back for financial reasons alone. Once again it is players not performing that have got us in a mess. Tactics may have been wrong - naive even, but when your players can't be bothered to try to execute the orders they have been given then there is a serious problem. I would rather see them go out and give 100% and then turn round and say "Look, this isn't working" than just think between themselves that "These tactics ain't going to work so I can't be bothered". The warning signs were there when it was the players who pushed Harry to change from 3-5-2 because the players didn't like/want it ... but in the two 4-0 defeats few actually put a shift in. TF, the ball is in your court. Make your decision.
Cant argue with this. The players are not fit, Adel doesnt train. You're his boss Harry, either make him train or look at why he doesnt want to train/work with you. Someone like Pulis would completely turn this squad around in terms of fitness and instantly get an 'us against them' mentality. I am not saying it will be pretty football, but really, what do we have now? I actually hate watching us, its uninspiring, boring and depressing. Get your finger out TF, its on you as much as it is the rest of them.
I don't think we can ask for Pullis. He'd do exactly what we'd want and then we'd turn on him and, expect more - better football or a longer term plan and we'd be in the same position in the future of wanting to get rid of a manager irrespective of any success from the previous year. My preference would be Moyes - he's been through relegation scraps and has got improvements year on year from teams. The debacle with Man U just makes him a realistic target and that was always going to be a poison chalice anyway.
It has been scientifically proven, that Moyes can only produce a team that is 6-8th best in the division..... DO we want that YES please!!!!!
I suppose another plus if we do get Pulis , that would mean Gerry Francis as well , and Les Ferdinand , two guys they know this club like the back of their hands
I'm starting to think we might be a poison chalice. ( sorry, I'll wash my mouth out ) Moyes would want to come in early to have a chance of keeping us up, one would think.
Same old bullshit nines...i have repeatedly asked this question of ther same poster and got the same reply as you...Loads to say but nothing to back it up...I take hima a joke now until he can put up any credible evidence or opinions....absolute waste of time as a poster. At least when i post "Anti Adel" posts, i can and do back it up. this clown just posts rubbish and wont reply...Dont expct an answer....he doesnt have one
Time to back the club lads, Time for Harold to shape up and admit his failings Under no circumstances should we change the manager or set up IMO … It's the manager and set up ( players ) that have to put this right I firmly believe with Taarabt and Kranky on the same pitch marshalled by Henry we will become a great side … It will make our defence look good in the end … we must create chances and goals DT's team V Liverpool and Villa to get us sorted in record quick time ……………………..Green……………………………. ……..Onuoha…..Caulker.…. Ferdinand….. Isla………………..Henry……………..Traore… …………Krancjar……… Fer …….…………….. ……………………..Taarabt………………………. …………………….Austin…………………………… Subs: Barton Sandro Hoilett Phillips Vargas City and Chelsea … currently no idea apart from Henry Barton and Sandro all need to play in that one
'Is sacking the answer. When we let mark Hughes go we still went down. Is it tactics, is it players, is it coaching, is it fitness When we lost Remy 48hrs before deadline it was huge huge blow. Huge blow. But we fight on. Stop sending me ridiculous tweets. I love the Remy comments. Remy was staying, he was in my house to sign the extention. Then Chelsea called. What back up pls Yeah I can pull out a striker in 24hrs. We tried damn hard with borini. So please tell me what you would have done. Damned easy to be armchair critics. Look at the stats. The goal was never a goal. Took the wind out of us. The second goal was against the run of play. No excuses. We still should have done better'
Sadly, yes. Still, his co-owners convinced him to sack Hughes (or, more accurately, out voted him), so all is not lost.
Nines nobody is going to convince you are they, Trouble is you're not convincing us he's any good. A few have listed some of his failings, leaving the promotion day aside what has Tony got right? We are all entitled to an opinion but more and more are seeing through the nauseating speeches & Tweets. For what its worth Phil Beard has cost this club a fortune learning how to become a chief Exec, Tony could have got someone with experience but chose the manager of the O2 Area instead. That is why I have no faith in Tony. Phil Beard is pissing a lot of people off but at the moment, Tony's silence is deafening. If you think Harry has a problem with nepotism you may wish to crane your neck and take a look at the top of the club as well.
'Is sacking the answer. When we let mark Hughes go we still went down.' Yes, because you replaced him with bleeding Redknapp. We will be relegated again unless you get rid very soon.
That might be hindsight for you Eamon, but it is what I stated at the time. I think you would be suprised at how many of us would have gladly accepted relegation provided we built for the future. You ask who would have taken the job on knowing there was a good chance of relegation? The answer to that is virtually every manager that wasn't then in the Premier. The answer would be the same now! They would all back themselves to suceed where all others have failed. We did not need to be promoted straightaway. That became a reqirement because of the expenditure we made in the transfer windows after Hughes had gone, chasing a possibility that was already out of sight.
Yes it would. Even discounting FFP, he's quintupled our debt in little over four years with absolutely nothing to show for it. Does anybody really think we were in worse shape on or off the pitch before Warnock fell foul of Global Branding? All this talk of managers having him over a barrel and forcing him to spend money is nothing short of bizarre to me. We've had guns held at heads in the boardroom before but this isn't one of those times. Look again at the figures I posted above, especially after Fernandes took over. Who thinks we're going to come close to clearing these debts on gates of 18,000? At any time Fernandes could and should have said no to this absurd spending before it came anywhere close to where we are now. For me he had an obligation to do so. "We cannot afford this now or for the foreseeable future" would have been the correct approach. He's a reckless and irresponsible gambler. (And before anyone says it. Yes I know the debts are internal. But debts have to be repaid at some point. The worry is what's the point of no return for these investors - for example, is the whole thing predicated on this potential property development - and what happens should we get there?)
So we should have said "no, we have no money" and just become anoher Brentford.... you got any sense of drive or progression..what do you do for a living?
