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Whilst the club is being run as it is, it is only a matter of time anyway. I think the manager should be given a chance to repair his mistakes.
He doesn't know how to. He plays the same system every game and re-affirms in interviews that he will continue to do so, ergo ****ing Madness
 
I love Andy Dawson, but he did manage Scunny to relegation at the back end of last season. The Scunny fans I know don't blame him for the relegation or anything like that, but it did show that he couldn't quite turn a similar situation around. I don't think we should appoint anyone based on pure emotion, but if we went with the Whitney/Brabin dream ticket (as manager and assistant) I'd go out and but 30 or 40 memberships immediately.

I've been told a couple of times by people who have a far better understanding of how he operates than I have, that Ehab views managerial appointments as an opportunity to show people how clever he is. That's been behind the left-field choices such as Silva, Slutsky and McCann, and why it took him so long to appoint Phelan on a permanent basis. Our saviour would be as likely to come from the Allsvenskan as he would from within.

I agree but I can't see the Allams sacking Terry then spending serious money on a replacement at this time.
 
They're not first choice (*), Elder apart, but I don't really agree.
And he does have options ... off the top of my head .... Taff, esp when you're getting mullered from crosses, Kingsley (who's been playing for u 23's), LDS can do a better job at RB as can Pennington, etc.

But anyway, that's why he should be protecting them not leaving them wide open.
4 4 2 or 3 5 2 (which becomes 5 4 1 when defending). NOT 4 2 1 3 (whether that's how it's set out or not, that and 4 2 4 is what it's been in practice for big parts of the game, as confirmed yesterday by Richard Hinds).

(* McLoughlin looks a decent prospect)
From the squad on Saturday he could have changed the system perhaps 4-4-2
Long/Ingram
Pennington Mcloughlin Taffazzoli Elder
Lopes Stewart Batty Samuelsen / Maddison
Balogh Lewis Potter
 
The difference is that Billy was performing on the pitch and just drinking in his free time, as was Waggy, Bullard wasn't performing at all (while being paid a fortune) and I'm pretty sure Lager and Coke don't aid recovery.
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I'm fairly sure that Billy's "free time" didn't include lunch time on a match day.

The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.
 
Ehab seemed? to have some connection with Silva. If he could get him back he would have a good go at turning it around.
 
Ehab seemed? to have some connection with Silva. If he could get him back he would have a good go at turning it around.
Nonono - we had a great start under silva but he couldn’t turn it round when we started slipping and losing heart towards the end of the season. And we had considerably better players in the squad. Nothing he’s done since convinces me he’s got any depth, he’s all good hair and suits.
 
Looks like he will be here til at least the weekend so it's something we are going to have to accept. A win which we all want obviously and he will carry on, lose and I don't know. One thing which is important which after recent games some will find hard to do but the support for the team is so important. Who ever and if someone else does come in he will have different ideas but what a difficult job to take on. A few have mentioned Nigel Adkins saying he would get more out of the players? Don't know maybe he would but let's not for get he had a defence with Burke, Lichaj and De Wijs playing and a forward line with Grosicki, Campbell and Bowen, six very decent championship players which would make a big difference to this team. Atkins wouldn't come back anyway but the point i am making is would Nigel get better out of the players or did he just have much better players available. Just an alternative view on the situation. However even with injuries only two points from the previous 33 is horrendous and if someone else could come in and organise this team defensively better it would be a good start.
 
I love Andy Dawson, but he did manage Scunny to relegation at the back end of last season. The Scunny fans I know don't blame him for the relegation or anything like that, but it did show that he couldn't quite turn a similar situation around. I don't think we should appoint anyone based on pure emotion, but if we went with the Whitney/Brabin dream ticket (as manager and assistant) I'd go out and but 30 or 40 memberships immediately.

I've been told a couple of times by people who have a far better understanding of how he operates than I have, that Ehab views managerial appointments as an opportunity to show people how clever he is. That's been behind the left-field choices such as Silva, Slutsky and McCann, and why it took him so long to appoint Phelan on a permanent basis. Our saviour would be as likely to come from the Allsvenskan as he would from within.

Second paragraph, first sentence Richard. The point is, he isn't very clever at all is he. If that is actually true, then he is just playing with a toy that daddy bought him. We all thought that was the case (well most of us anyway).
 
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My first game was 1982. I've been a regular since about 86. I've not seen a team as predictably pathetic, and as out of their depth, as what we have right now. I've seen teams worse at football (Dolan, Hateley). I've seen teams with less passion (Hateley, 2009/10 season for the most part). But I've never seen a team so ill-prepared for what is facing them.

Grant McCann has a fair few mitigating factors, but they are mostly things that he went into with his eyes open. The Allams haven't just suddenly become clueless owners. He got Bowen and Grosicki for half a season longer than he'd probably expected. Injuries happen. They may not happen to the extent that we've suffered them, but if the replacements aren't good enough then McCann has to carry the can for much of that. If replacements Tafazolli, Magennis, Maddison, Honeyman, Balogh, Wilks, etc... aren't up to the standards that he or we expect, it was him who brought them in.

McCann has been able to shape his own squad. He's been given funds/resources that should, I think, be good enough to see us survive in this division. The "let's blame the Allams" schtick doesn't quite work with me on this one (for once). McCann has to be better than this. I want him to turn it around, obviously, but his intransigence or his inability to see what is clear to every last person doesn't fill me with any hope.

I worry about relegation. A lot. It's pointless trying to second-guess the Allams, but I do think they'll be less likely to sell in League 1 as they'll be less likely to recoup the money they see as owed to them. That's all on the proviso that they want to sell. Which they don't. But I need a bit of hope on that score. Just a modicum. And in League 1 I'd have none. It seems now that McCann is being given a last chance against Charlton this weekend. He's a lucky boy if so.

Absolutely this. I would also add McCann didn’t come to us blindly, he was friends with Adkins, spoke with Nige before hand, so knew the score and what he was coming in to. Whilst I sympathise re injuries, most of the squad assembled has been on his watch, and whilst we all question the quality of recruitment, whether L1 or Championship level, irrespective of quality there is absolutely no excuse for the lack of fight and effort on offer at Stoke. The stats from Sat are embarrassing; 8 tackles, 8 interceptions in 90 odd mins., players & McCann should be ashamed.

They looked defeated from the off, resigned to their fate. That is at McCann’s door. From the start, team selection; the only two players that look like they might be capable of doing something, Balogh and Maddison, on the bench. That is down to McCann. Balogh showed more in his 20 mins in his last match than Magennis in his last few matches.

It looks like cracks are now beginning to appear from the players, first Stewart last week questioned tactics, and this week Irvine mentioned in his interview the tactical approach. McCann & players may feel hurt by the chanting, not as hurt as the supporters who coff up their hard earned and as a bare minimum expect to see a bit of fight, pride and a shift put in, not just going through the motions.