OK, just for you castle, I've just watched it. I think it's pretty clear; as I originally described it.
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OK, just for you castle, I've just watched it. I think it's pretty clear; as I originally described it.
Only problem is that's a few frames after Bruce wins the tackle hence the position of the ball.
To illustrate castleparktiger's point - a couple of slightly different views.
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Kicking the ball away first doesn't allow you to commit a two-footed challenge off the ground after! It all happened very fast, but I saw it as it happened, so did the ref.
I'm fed up with this 'discussion' now, i'm off to give the Sunderland supporters some assistance in selecting a new manager.
I also saw it as it happened and it was clearly NOT a two footed challenge. One foot was firmly planted and the other made the tackle. Having made the tackle, and while Mahrez was hovering somewhere above him before descending and planting his boot into Bruce's midriff (also not a foul!), Bruce had to bring his standing foot forwards - an entirely necessary movement to avoid serious self harm and there was no risk of two footed contact with Mahrez.
There's a screenshot up above mate. Have a look. Can't see any feet firmly planted on that image.
I think you'll see that I posted a couple of more relevant images showing Bruce's left foot to be grounded behind the tackle. I suspect that you'd happily argue that black is white on this issue so I'll leave you to your delusions and move onto more interesting/relevant subjects.
80s? the 80s? .... for pansies ... the 70s now ... they were for real men - just watch the 1970 Cup Final (and replay) between Leeds and Chelsea- would receive an 18 certificate if shown today
There was also a tackle in a Charity Shield that I recall - by Liverpool's Tommy Smith on Leed's Allan Clarke ... was somewhat akin to GBH ... the camera angle was such that it captures Tommy arriving to crunch Clarkey right on the touch line so late after Clarkey has played the ball that it beggars belief ... Clarkey knew he was coming too and takes 'evasive' action - leaps for his lfe (or legs)
From Wikipedia - on the 1970 Final
"Modern-day referee David Elleray reviewed the match in 1997, and concluded that the sides would have received six red cards and twenty yellow cards between them, in the modern era of football.[7] Tommy Baldwin and Terry Cooper, admittedly two of the quieter men in the two sides, were kicking lumps out of one another, as the battle began. Not long into the game, Chelsea's Ron Harris caught winger Eddie Gray with a kick to the back of the knee, an action which neutralised the Scottish winger for the rest of the game. Norman Hunter and Ian Hutchinson traded punches while McCreadie and Johnny Giles lunged at opposition players. Charlton kneed and headbutted Peter Osgood while Chelsea's goalkeeper Peter Bonetti was injured after being bundled into the net by Leeds' Jones, who, minutes later, rounded the limping Bonetti and scored the opener."
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80s? the 80s? .... for pansies ... the 70s now ... they were for real men - just watch the 1970 Cup Final (and replay) between Leeds and Chelsea- would receive an 18 certificate if shown today
There was also a tackle in a Charity Shield that I recall - by Liverpool's Tommy Smith on Leed's Allan Clarke ... was somewhat akin to GBH ... the camera angle was such that it captures Tommy arriving to crunch Clarkey right on the touch line so late after Clarkey has played the ball that it beggars belief ... Clarkey knew he was coming too and takes 'evasive' action - leaps for his lfe (or legs)
From Wikipedia - on the 1970 Final
"Modern-day referee David Elleray reviewed the match in 1997, and concluded that the sides would have received six red cards and twenty yellow cards between them, in the modern era of football.[7] Tommy Baldwin and Terry Cooper, admittedly two of the quieter men in the two sides, were kicking lumps out of one another, as the battle began. Not long into the game, Chelsea's Ron Harris caught winger Eddie Gray with a kick to the back of the knee, an action which neutralised the Scottish winger for the rest of the game. Norman Hunter and Ian Hutchinson traded punches while McCreadie and Johnny Giles lunged at opposition players. Charlton kneed and headbutted Peter Osgood while Chelsea's goalkeeper Peter Bonetti was injured after being bundled into the net by Leeds' Jones, who, minutes later, rounded the limping Bonetti and scored the opener."
I can remember Frank Large having Gordon West, Everton Goalie, on his knees begging for Mercy
How can those earlier shots be "more relevant" than a pic taken at the point of impact??? You lot keep missing the point. I have never argued that Bruce didn't get the ball first. But he then, as the pic shows, threw himself two-footed off the ground into Mahrez's ankles. Getting to the ball first doesn't allow you to break legs straight after, especially when he actively changes direction from the ball towards the player!
The pic's there for you to see. Not sure how you can argue against it - and you accuse me of arguing black is white?!
I don't think we would actually. We're well aware that we have players like Konchesky and Vardy who are fond of challenges like that. Bruce's challenge wasn't that bad, just a straight forward yellow card like you see every game. It's just the Hull fans claiming it was an "outrageous" refereeing decision is, well, outrageous.
James' sending off against Villa was actually pretty similar, as I recall. Two-footed but won the ball and was moving very slowly, I'd say the Bruce one is actually worse.
