Team sheet Tactics & Formation
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Was about to write a similar article...i've spent all morning trying to think of may strongest 11 (and even 18), and i can't come up with one (probably because i'm still trying to work out each players strengths and best positions)
I think we can all agree that the back 5 will pick itself (unless Walton doesn't cut the mustard), as well as Morsy as the CDM.
If Cook sticks to his 4-2-3-1 formation, then the other CM will be between Harper, Evans & Carroll
RW looks to be between Burns and Edwards
LW you have Celina, Chaplin (who both can also play AM)
AM you have Fraser, Piggott, Chaplin, Celina, Aluko, Barry
CF - Piggott, Bonne, Norwood
If i was to pick the team, based on what i've seen/heard, and if everyone is available a d fit, it would be;
GK Walton
LB Coulson
CB Edmundson
CB Burgess
RB KVY
CM Morsey
CM Harper
AML Celina
AMR Edwards
AMC Chaplin/Fraser
CF Bonne
Subs:
Hladky
Penney
Wolfy
Carroll
Evans
Burns
Piggott
I think we can all agree that the back 5 will pick itself (unless Walton doesn't cut the mustard), as well as Morsy as the CDM.
If Cook sticks to his 4-2-3-1 formation, then the other CM will be between Harper, Evans & Carroll
RW looks to be between Burns and Edwards
LW you have Celina, Chaplin (who both can also play AM)
AM you have Fraser, Piggott, Chaplin, Celina, Aluko, Barry
CF - Piggott, Bonne, Norwood
If i was to pick the team, based on what i've seen/heard, and if everyone is available a d fit, it would be;
GK Walton
LB Coulson
CB Edmundson
CB Burgess
RB KVY
CM Morsey
CM Harper
AML Celina
AMR Edwards
AMC Chaplin/Fraser
CF Bonne
Subs:
Hladky
Penney
Wolfy
Carroll
Evans
Burns
Piggott
I think its really difficult to tell at the moment, lots of twists and turns, I bet Paul Cook doesn't even know who he'd pick in his starting 11 if everyone was fit.
Don't think the backline is guaranteed yet, haven't seen anything of Edmunson and he's 2 years older than Woolfenden and played less first team games the majority of which are at a similar level. KVY has yet to show the form of when he first came to Ipswich and after a long injury may not be able to play the number of games, so I wouldn't be surprised to see Burns in there.
I'm terms of midfield, I've no idea, I think Evans and Harper have looked half decent but have certainly faded later in games whether thats due to fitness I'm not sure but I also don't think how the team have set up has not helped their cause as they have often been exposed or lacking options to pass in deep positions, maybe having a specialist defensive midfielder will help. Additionally I wouldn't totally rule out Fraser playing deeper.
Bonne has performed very well but I bet noone before the season started had him in the starting 11, I still feel if fit Norwood could have a major part to play.
Don't think the backline is guaranteed yet, haven't seen anything of Edmunson and he's 2 years older than Woolfenden and played less first team games the majority of which are at a similar level. KVY has yet to show the form of when he first came to Ipswich and after a long injury may not be able to play the number of games, so I wouldn't be surprised to see Burns in there.
I'm terms of midfield, I've no idea, I think Evans and Harper have looked half decent but have certainly faded later in games whether thats due to fitness I'm not sure but I also don't think how the team have set up has not helped their cause as they have often been exposed or lacking options to pass in deep positions, maybe having a specialist defensive midfielder will help. Additionally I wouldn't totally rule out Fraser playing deeper.
Bonne has performed very well but I bet noone before the season started had him in the starting 11, I still feel if fit Norwood could have a major part to play.
The big IF is if they are fit! And most aren’t. We’ve signed players with injuries, injured players we’ve signed…so the reality is it’ll be about using the depth to field a strong side as often as possible.
based on the latest arrivals I expect us to line up as follows in an ideal world:
GK Walton
LB Coulson
CB Edmundson
CB Burgess
RB KVY
DCM Morsey
CM Evans pushing in front of Morsy
AML Celina
AMR Edwards
AMC Chaplin/Fraser
CF Bonne
The press though has to be a lot better from the forwards to be effective. We’re not doing it well but it takes immense stamina and fitness so perhaps a pre season hangover issue. No one said attacking football was easy.
the midfield is interesting. Morsy is the only ‘destroyer’ so I’m worried what plan B is if he’s injured or suspended.
Evans was effective at Wigan going alongside a tough midfielder so I’m sure he’ll get the nod. His free kicks are match winners.
So Harper loses out which seems harsh and no idea what the plan is for Carol. A poor mans Jorghino I don’t know how he fits in.
saying that, with our injury record they’ll probably all get 20 games over the season!
I hope the cookout brigade give it a rest. Clearly he’s wanted Morsy and Celina from the get go as they are big time Charlie’s and without Morsy in particular the system struggles.
so let’s give him a clean slate, treat this as the start and compare our defensive strength and points tally after the next 5 games with the first to see if he can make this work.
based on the latest arrivals I expect us to line up as follows in an ideal world:
GK Walton
LB Coulson
CB Edmundson
CB Burgess
RB KVY
DCM Morsey
CM Evans pushing in front of Morsy
AML Celina
AMR Edwards
AMC Chaplin/Fraser
CF Bonne
The press though has to be a lot better from the forwards to be effective. We’re not doing it well but it takes immense stamina and fitness so perhaps a pre season hangover issue. No one said attacking football was easy.
the midfield is interesting. Morsy is the only ‘destroyer’ so I’m worried what plan B is if he’s injured or suspended.
Evans was effective at Wigan going alongside a tough midfielder so I’m sure he’ll get the nod. His free kicks are match winners.
So Harper loses out which seems harsh and no idea what the plan is for Carol. A poor mans Jorghino I don’t know how he fits in.
saying that, with our injury record they’ll probably all get 20 games over the season!
I hope the cookout brigade give it a rest. Clearly he’s wanted Morsy and Celina from the get go as they are big time Charlie’s and without Morsy in particular the system struggles.
so let’s give him a clean slate, treat this as the start and compare our defensive strength and points tally after the next 5 games with the first to see if he can make this work.
This I’m not on board with. He is 25 games into the job now and he should be judged on every one of those in the context of the circumstances. With all this talent and at such a poor level then given his abject failure so far, if he can’t buy a win in the next five matches he should go and if he can’t lift us into play off contention by Christmas then somebody else should come in and build on what’s there.
Looks like Woolfenden was kept on to be our one home grown player who has to be in the first team squad as this is a requirement.
Whilst I've been pleased that we've been taken over and the club are now being properly invested in and professionally run it is disappointing that with one summer transfer window all of that has gone. I hope as things progress we are still able to integrate our youngsters into the first team picture
Whilst I've been pleased that we've been taken over and the club are now being properly invested in and professionally run it is disappointing that with one summer transfer window all of that has gone. I hope as things progress we are still able to integrate our youngsters into the first team picture
Nothing disappointing about it, the home grown players are just not good enough, no place for sentiment.... you're not good enough...now **** off!!
Sounds like you would rather keep some of these **** players and carry on as we have been over the last few years!!
Come on ptc, do you honestly think any of our home grown players are better than what we have brought in? I think we all want to see talent come through but they have to be better than what we have and at the moment.....there ain't one player that could get anywhere near imo (apart from wolf)
Sounds like you would rather keep some of these **** players and carry on as we have been over the last few years!!
Come on ptc, do you honestly think any of our home grown players are better than what we have brought in? I think we all want to see talent come through but they have to be better than what we have and at the moment.....there ain't one player that could get anywhere near imo (apart from wolf)
I’m sure,with their appreciation of Town’s fine reputation historically for developing young players,that the new management team will be addressing this issue too.
Seeing as it’s a rule that u have to have at least one homegrown player there is cause to develop players and wolfy may not be/want to be here forever, so we need youth flowing to the first team as a matter of policy.
I do winder if in a different universe had Downes, lankester etc been coming through into a first team run by cook and developed by him earlier in their careers if they’d been part of the picture. They can’t be that bad given people paid good money to take them…
anyway, they’re gone and we are where we are. And I’m delighted with our squad for the first time since Joe Royal. Even MM’s playoff side wasn’t my idea if quality; one striker that magically scored for once in his life papered over a weak team that was outclassed in the end by you know who. Just wait til we get our hands on them next time…
I do winder if in a different universe had Downes, lankester etc been coming through into a first team run by cook and developed by him earlier in their careers if they’d been part of the picture. They can’t be that bad given people paid good money to take them…
anyway, they’re gone and we are where we are. And I’m delighted with our squad for the first time since Joe Royal. Even MM’s playoff side wasn’t my idea if quality; one striker that magically scored for once in his life papered over a weak team that was outclassed in the end by you know who. Just wait til we get our hands on them next time…
No place for sentiment in football....why the hell do you support Ipswich then?
I'm not overly disappointed with regards to the quality of players that has left other than Downes really but feel we let alot of those players down, many of whom had so much potential. It is just a shame that we now literally have 1 first team player of note, where at times last season over half the team where academy players.
I'm not sure any manager could have supported those academy players any better with their development, the whole environment let them down, lack of professionalism throughout the club, leadership on the pitch and whilst talented many did not earn the right to play, so played too many games too soon without playing mens football.
This squad does appear to be a very good one. I would argue that whilst over the years we've certainly had stronger players than we have at the moment the squad in terms of ability and depth for the level we are at with so much competition for places is probably the best since the Burley era.
Royle didn't really have strong squads and some of the players in his first team weren't the best but we had sprinkling of quality and bags of character.
By the time gamechanger came in, the damage was already done on all this. It goes all the way back to Simon Clegg’s time and it’s going to take a decade to rebuild and see the full fruits.
I wasn’t happy about the number of changes in one go but no individual deserved to stay.
We’ve had two sides with far more quality that we have at the moment and loads of players who ended up in the Premier League. League One standard flatters some of our individuals.
I feel like we still produced lots of talented players through the academy but that first team environment was not conducive to their development and that probably goes back nearly to when Evans first arrived.
The academy is Evans and Clegg’s legacy and the first team environment is McCarthy’s legacy.
It’s the reason that I’m so opposed to loan signings in all but loan-to-buy and exceptional circumstances.
After a bad shambolic defeat to Bolton the team sheet tactics and formation must be questioned.
The squad has been warmly received as ‘good’ players so the fans have to believe in the quality of the players. So if it’s not them…
Do the players suit the formation? The two midfielders have offered nothing going forwards and failed to adequately protect a defence that is tasked with sending its full backs up as wingers. This seems a major problem area for us.
the high press. It’s just not happening. We’re not forcing the defenders in possession to panic and make errors which we can capitalise in the final third. It’s too easy for them despite this apparent stellar forward line.
I don’t yet see a pattern of play or system. Sure there’s partnerships in evidence but too often it’s predictable.
I think hoping Celina and Morsy can fix this is a fallacy. They can improve the team but overall we need to better defend as a team from the top of the pitch to the gk.
The squad has been warmly received as ‘good’ players so the fans have to believe in the quality of the players. So if it’s not them…
Do the players suit the formation? The two midfielders have offered nothing going forwards and failed to adequately protect a defence that is tasked with sending its full backs up as wingers. This seems a major problem area for us.
the high press. It’s just not happening. We’re not forcing the defenders in possession to panic and make errors which we can capitalise in the final third. It’s too easy for them despite this apparent stellar forward line.
I don’t yet see a pattern of play or system. Sure there’s partnerships in evidence but too often it’s predictable.
I think hoping Celina and Morsy can fix this is a fallacy. They can improve the team but overall we need to better defend as a team from the top of the pitch to the gk.
If anyone has the time; watch Liverpool Leeds on now. The high press masters. Salah has just gone in at right back after chasing back the Leeds player. I don’t think I’ve seen Wes burns do anything south of the half way line yet! Reminds me of Romario…
Evans and Harper are a big part of the problem imo, poor at defending and always look knackered after 60 mins. I think they are my new Judge!!
They are also failing to drive forwards and support the attacks. Harper was AWOL yesterday. I imagine Morsy will come in for him and the winning combo at Wigan will be reunited. But if anyone can screw up a winning formula it’s us…