I'm pretty sure it was actually in the Championship the season when QPR got promoted a few years back - their progress was covered in in a documentary at the time - absolute comedy gold.
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N'Doye looks to be in a good scoring rate of 1 in 1 so far but can he keep it up?
Really he needs to be scoring about 10 goals by the end of the season if he's going to be worth keeping hold of, as you say age isn't on his side (he's 30 tomorrow) so if we don't sell him soon he'll be worthless and costing us a lot in wages.
Fingers crossed he doesn't turn in to the next Yannick Sagbo.
I'd be interested to see how many Roo thinks he should be getting before the end of the season before he's enrolled in the 'Jozy Altidore Special School for Strikers' or whatever he calls it.
Ah that would explain it, I pretty much stopped supporting when we got relegated.
N'Doye looks to be in a good scoring rate of 1 in 1 so far but can he keep it up?
Really he needs to be scoring about 10 goals by the end of the season if he's going to be worth keeping hold of, as you say age isn't on his side (he's 30 tomorrow
Fingers crossed he doesn't turn in to the next Yannick Sagbo.
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Technically he's got 1 in 2. He needs to pull his finger out otherwise he'll fall to 1 in 3 (and below the good-**** line).
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We've had a few games against the hoops with a bit of incident. Who'd count against another tomorrow?
There's the "Furlong-Edge bombing chant" game to open a new season, there's the Taarabt hissy-fit game and then there's the one that should teach fans never to leave early.
There's the "Furlong-Edge bombing chant" game to open a new season, there's the Taarabt hissy-fit game and then there's the one that should teach fans never to leave early.
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Hindsight (after the announcement by Bruce) is a wonderful thing, but I think it was always Pie-in-the-sky that Diane would start - but, as we now know, he is crocked.
Same team as last Tuesday, they did the job, the opposition isn't tactically much different, so let's get on a roll!
UTT In Bruce We Trust
Our Skipper, broke up play, he commanded his team and tried to calm theirs; that in itself was enough. But then that pass, from a deep midfield possession, it put us on a front foot and created the goal that spun the game. We need a player of his quality, he really was far better that people outside of Hull realise.
Shame we have the shambolic McGregor now, we really miss a keeper like Myhill who never ever made an error
Also, how refreshing is it to watch proper refereeing. The theatrical nonsense would certainly have resulted in a penalty in the Prem and none of the refs have the balls required to book someone for dissent, never mind giving a second yellow.
Nobody has the faintest idea just how many goals N'Doye may or may not get for the remainder of the season. Again, you take my posts totally out of context by suggesting that I set a figure as a yardstick as to how many goals he should get. I have never said anything like this. My criticism is levelled at those lame-brains on here who try to convince me that a "striker" who scores 2 goals from 30-odd appearances will 'come good' and 'contributes' in other ways. What a load of bollocks! We desperately need someone to score some goals and I am hoping that we have got such a player in N'Doye but it remains to be seen. If he doesn't hit the back of the net on a regular basis then PLEASE do not tell me that 'he is good at assisting the Tea Lady though'! N'Doye has been brought in to add some much needed fire-power up front so let us hope that he can do that.
Where on earth to you get this $ h ! t from? Are you another one who is going to tell me that Altidore, Proschwitz, Graham, Cousin, Simpson and Sagbo would have 'come good' if we played them for another 100 games? They were absolute and utter $ h ! t! A '1 in 3' striker at this level is a good striker and would hit 12 goals a season which would be brilliant for us in the bottom half of this league.
Hernandez is the one who needs to 'pull his finger out'. He was a 2 in 7 striker for Palermo and (currently) a 1 in 7 for us (in 'open play' not counting the penalty). We need better.
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Yeah but you do set some sort of figure, because it comes across that you're very close to writing off Hernandez after his return of 3 in however many. Some players take more time than others to settle into our game; Bruce already stated that African players seem to do it easier which would explain why N'Doye looks right at home in the Premier League.
I can see that pointing out what is now commonplace in the modern game is a waste of time, it doesn't seem you'll ever be able to grasp the fact that strikers aren't the same as goalscorers, there are varying types in every team. You seem to come across like every striker in the world's job is to simply score goals, when (and I think you do deep down) we know that simply isn't the case.
Bollocks Sterling. There are 'strikers', 'hold-up' forwards, 'target men' and 'goalscorers'. What we need is a bloody goalscorer - and it looks like we might have found one with N'Doye. "A striker isn't the same as a goalscorer" - what the hell's that supposed to mean? That a goalkeeper isn't the same as a defender! The the Chef isn't really the Chef - he's the toilet cleaner! How would you describe Bobby Zamora? He was a prolific 'striker' when with Brighton but at this level is a 1 in 10 'forward'. Bobby provides a service, anyone can see that and we nearly signed him for 5 million some seasons ago, but he is not a goalscorer as such.
Hernandez came here as a goalscoring striker not to sit on the bench. He was a 2 in 7 striker for Palermo and a 1 in 8 (open play) with us. For 10 million quid we should expect a little better and that's putting it mildly.
Hernandez was 3 in 5, or 2 in 5 from open play before traveling to & from Uruguay & then injuries.
Anyway that's going over old ground right now, but N'Doye is 2 in 3 technically. As you say we DO need a goal scoring striker, maybe he is what we've been looking for, maybe not, we'll see as the season gets done.
It's nice to see you realise that there are other sorts of strikers, but without the **** ones that don't score, don't do the dirty work, the ones who score regularly wouldn't be getting the goals. I know it's hard to see with us, but at most other teams you rarely see both strikers scoring lots of goals, it's normally 1 who gets the goals & 1 that assists, holds up play.
Yes, I know Bruce, I'm not a bloody idiot. Quinn and Phillips at Sunderland were perfect examples of this but this season we have had no recognized 'hold-up' forward, no recognized 'contributing' forward and only Jelly as a recognized 'goalscoring striker'! Some posters have been ranting about Aluko who is neither of the aforesaid just gets the ball and is 'bound-for-glory' every time and bollocks to the team. Same goes for Sagbo who is not only none of the aforesaid but might as well go on the pitch and make himself a cup of tea and a sandwich for what good he is.
I have read N'Doye's CV and he can be extra deadly with his head so I would expect more crosses into the box. Both Robbie and Elmo were restricted against QPR but when Robbie finally got the crosses in one was miraculously saved by the goalie and the other went in like a bullet. This bloke is showing more promise than any other striker we have had in recent years. Early days yet of course and whereas I acknowledge Hernandez' trip back home and injuries it's time he put in a shift.
Those analogies don't apply to football at all. Outfield players are well known for being versatile, performing more than one role and being able to play in more than one position. We don't play it two strikers to double our chances of scoring, thats not how it works, we play with a bigger striker to set up the goalscorer; at the moment we are lucky that both of ours are scoring goals but if one suddenly stopped, it shouldn't mean they would be dropped.
I agree on Hernandez, we should be getting more bang for our buck, but it's not his fault we paid that sum for him. We need players to be able to work in tandem up front and more often than not in a front two there will be a striker who scores loads and A striker who doesn't score as many but helps out his partner. That doesn't make him ****, it's just his role in the team.
N'Doyes pace, acceleration and jumping all dropped by two yesterday.
It's a slippery slope.
It's a slippery slope.
He kept drifting out wide left second half too madge. How in hell is he going to score stood on the left touchline. There are shades of Simpson about him. i'd get rid before he becomes a standing joke, on his left leg obviously, because I've not seen him use it to kick with...
Yes, I understand what you are saying Sterling especially about up-front players being 'versatile' and playing a different role to a striker. My beef has been with those posters who kept trying to tell me that Sagbo and Aluko were performing these roles when they weren't. I have been saying from the start of the season that Jelly needed a player to work to and work off but neither Sagbo nor Aluko were prepared to do this nor did they have the ability to do so. Rodriguez is another enigma who has shown little or nothing. Both Brady and Elmo are blowing hot and cold the same as The Hudd and Livermore. I'm sure that Mike Phelan is working on the cohesion problem we appear to have. I don't think Robertson will be sat on the bench too much longer as we have to attack over these next few games. Shame about Diame as both Meyler and Quinn are a noddle short of a stir-fry at this level.