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Councils do not create wealth - which is what has made this country a leading power for centuries.

So we're sucking the "talent" out of the Private Wealth making sector to employ them in the loss making Public sector?

Wait a go Team UK <ok>
 
StereoTypist said:
That would mean the average salary going UP in the public sector. So you're happy to pay more taxes for that then?
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IT personnel earn more in the public sector
Accounts personnel earn more in the public sector
HR personnel earn more in the public sector
Management personnel earn more in the public sector
They get more benefits in terms of Annual Leave, bank holidays, pension, flexitime etc etc etc

Every company I have worked for in the private sector (and that is quite a few) we don't get anywhere near those benefits
And that is not even considering the better job security in the public sector
 
wheresmycoat said:
I have worked in the public sector for 27 years and my salary is a lot less than people I know in the private sector.
Everyone complaining about the pay and benefits within the public sector should take a long hard look at the pay scales and the percentage of people who are earning more that 25k per year.
Only a small percentage of the public sector earn more than 40k per year.
Those are the people who are misleading the public on wages and benefits.
I took my job in the public sector in the full knowledge that i would be paid less but my reasoning was that if i lived long enough I could enjoy my retirment and not be a burden on the tax payer by claiming benefits and by the way i pay £40.00 per month for my pension.
BACK THE STRIKE
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<applause>
 
Toby said:
So if the competition is fierce, then the people the council will employ will be very talented, so deserving a higher salary than yourself if you can't get a position there.
So they're incompetent and they get paid too much, but you can't get a job there?
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The same can be said about the private sector
 
1980EasterRoad said:
Not just the banks though ST. Governmental stupidity for over a decade at least.
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The Government of the UK make **** all difference. A little bit of tinkering here and there. The seeds of the recession were planted long before Gordon Broon came to power. In fact, it's likely the seeds of the next recession are being sown now.

I'm all for improving the efficiency of the public sector. However, it's got to be targeted at the right people, not in a one-size-fit-fits-all Government policy where hard-working and honest public servants get hammered too.
 
Its a free labour market guys. If you dont like the pay, terms and conditions where you are currently, then you're free to shop around.

Rather than sit and bitch about it, do something.

It's called capitalism <ok.
 
johnnybgoode83 said:
IT personnel earn more in the public sector
Accounts personnel earn more in the public sector
HR personnel earn more in the public sector
Management personnel earn more in the public sector
They get more benefits in terms of Annual Leave, bank holidays, pension, flexitime etc etc etc

Every company I have worked for in the private sector (and that is quite a few) we don't get anywhere near those benefits
And that is not even considering the better job security in the public sector
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I suspect you must just be unlucky (or not good enough at your job to get a better one!)
 
johnnybgoode83 said:
The same can be said about the private sector
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You were talking about changing from the private to the public, doing exactly what you are doing now, but claim you couldn't get a job there because of competition. So surely you don't deserve the higher salary available there if you're not good enough for the job?
 
StereoTypist said:
The Government of the UK make **** all difference. A little bit of tinkering here and there. The seeds of the recession were planted long before Gordon Broon came to power. In fact, it's likely the seeds of the next recession are being sown now.

I'm all for improving the efficiency of the public sector. However, it's got to be targeted at the right people, not in a one-size-fit-fits-all Government policy where hard-working and honest public servants get hammered too.
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What part of "over a decade" do you not understand ****-nut?
 
We need a big, massive war - like the wans they used tae huv on the telly.

Conscription for the over 65s ya bass <ok>
 
"That would mean the average salary going UP in the public sector. So you're happy to pay more taxes for that then?
IT personnel earn more in the public sector
Accounts personnel earn more in the public sector
HR personnel earn more in the public sector
Management personnel earn more in the public sector
They get more benefits in terms of Annual Leave, bank holidays, pension, flexitime etc etc etc"

Hmmmmm - we've had loads of people move from my public sector place to the private sector in those jobs because the pay is better.
 
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