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Do you want this takeover

  • Hell yes

    Votes: 1 8.3%
  • Hell no

    Votes: 5 41.7%
  • Umm maybe

    Votes: 6 50.0%

  • Total voters
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Dec 27, 2013
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Simple but maybe not so simple question really

We're being linked with a new owner and the current one has valued us at an incredible £1billion

Would you welcome Amanda Staveley and PCP Capital Partners' apparent / possible takeover of the club ??
 
She was invited to the game by Newcastle apparently and not FSG, Mike Ashley's looking for a buyer FSG aren't.
According to the 'richlist' she's only worth £150m so she'd only be the 'broker' for a client in any deal.
 
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Exactly...

Let's boil this down.


People that grumble about the current owners not doing enough? Translation "we want to be winning everything again and for all our spouting about not wanting a City/Chelsea sugar daddy; we want the city/Chelsea sugar daddy."

By all means we can complain if they hire people who don't know their arses from their elbow and splash the money we do have on the wrong 2 players each window. .

But that's not ripping us off....

The choices in this current era are the City way or the Spurs way etc... the evidence suggests so far the city way wins but why is that our current owners fault?

If you are as cynical as it is suggested our owners are do you not think they'd have already sold to the rich Arab or Russian for the 200% profit already if one has come calling? They haven't bevause no one came calling.

I vaguely know my way around a set of accounts but I'm far from what is consider knowledgeable....but I'm same sure I didn't see any million quid "loans" to Henrys kids etc.....

My problem with FSG is that they are ****ing clueless with anything related to football.

We are the only top 6 club that consistently miss out on our managers transfer targets. It's no wonder we never challenge for the big stuff because our managers always get ****ed over by them.
 
Smart time to sell. TV deal currently is overpriced. I doubt clubs will be making as much relatively speaking in 5 years... Could be wrong but I suspect we're in a little bit of a bubble. Don't think prices will crash but think they may have plateaued.

Several other smaller leagues elsewhere in world strengthening rapidly, this will make European leagues a little less attractive over seas. FSG are good business men and might jump whilst time is right... Or they may continue.

Seen too many false sale predictions over the years to really put too much care into it. If a solid sell lead comes into focus I'll pay more attention.

A rich Arab sugar daddy who can get around FFP and pump us with money like PSG or Man City wouldn't be totally bad. Not a sexy way to win titles, but it would still be winning titles again.
 
I would say that Liverpool need a stinkly reach owner to compete in hostile environment.If FSG fits the bill is another question.We have Manchester city and united,Chelsea Arsenal and Tottenham to compete with.
 
You guys know by now to simply ignore all his comments when he is on late at night and bored/drunk?

Just pretend he never wrote a thing and tslk to whoever else is on.


As for takeover..... I believe that a hack wrote this takeover bit entirely based on her picture being taknen at last Sunday's game. I think the fact that the internet buzz about it was not even a day and no daily pushed it meant that the Sunday mirror just used it as filler piece. It was a week old place holder that didn't get pushed off the slot it was in due to the internationals being dull as pish.
 
My problem with FSG is that they are ****ing clueless with anything related to football.

We are the only top 6 club that consistently miss out on our managers transfer targets. It's no wonder we never challenge for the big stuff because our managers always get ****ed over by them.

They just can't get the dynamics right, the components might be their but the people to put it all together in the right order ain't.
No doubt John Henry and the boys were at Fenway Park yesterday cheering on the Red Sox against Houston Astros in the World Series playoffs.
If he wants us to be in a position where they can cheer us on to victory they themselves need to make it happen.

And we wore red socks first.<grr>
 
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They just can't get the dynamics right, the components might be their but the people to put it all together in the right order ain't.
No doubt John Henry and the boys were at Fenway Park yesterday cheering on the Red Sox against Houston Astros in the World Series playoffs.
If he wants us to be in a position where they can cheer us on to victory they themselves need to make it happen.

And we wore red socks first.<grr>
If we change our name to Liverpool RedSox we might fool him into taking an interest.
 
I'm happy with FSG. Always have concerns about a takeover, could end up with another H&G!
 
Just in case my legit answer to this thread became lost: No to a sugar-daddy from me.
I want us to win trophies, but not that way.
 
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Piece today.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spor...s/fsg-how-much-liverpools-owners-13739148.amp

Basically sums up my view....FSG have done good in stabilising and growing the club as a structure or organisation.

On the field?

As I said before. 2 choices at mo. Have owners who live in clubs budget rather than throw in serious cash and hope the staff hired can find the gems or sugar daddy it.

The PL winners seems to suggest the sugar daddies are winning the battle.

So at this point it's a matter of personal opinion. Happy to go the non daddy route but accept that literally any bad decisions made by management a year will rule out titles and even good decisions might just not be enough.

Or want a rich man to come in that makes bad choices irrelevant over a period of time bevause your team will always have enough stars to compete.

I'm not criticising either view. Obviously I'd like my cake and eat it with option A winning us trophies. I just think it's going to be tough.

I'm not sure FSG can do anymore than they are doing under their current model. They certainly aren't ever going to or even can switch to huge transfer spend approach.

I don't think they've ever lied. They say they want success but have always been clear they wouldn't throw the kitchen sink in.

Does anyone else think they could do things differently but under the same live within your means model? Serious question. Other than keep changing personnel above the players.
 
Piece today.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spor...s/fsg-how-much-liverpools-owners-13739148.amp

Basically sums up my view....FSG have done good in stabilising and growing the club as a structure or organisation.

On the field?

As I said before. 2 choices at mo. Have owners who live in clubs budget rather than throw in serious cash and hope the staff hired can find the gems or sugar daddy it.

The PL winners seems to suggest the sugar daddies are winning the battle.

So at this point it's a matter of personal opinion. Happy to go the non daddy route but accept that literally any bad decisions made by management a year will rule out titles and even good decisions might just not be enough.

Or want a rich man to come in that makes bad choices irrelevant over a period of time bevause your team will always have enough stars to compete.

I'm not criticising either view. Obviously I'd like my cake and eat it with option A winning us trophies. I just think it's going to be tough.

I'm not sure FSG can do anymore than they are doing under their current model. They certainly aren't ever going to or even can switch to huge transfer spend approach.

I don't think they've ever lied. They say they want success but have always been clear they wouldn't throw the kitchen sink in.

Does anyone else think they could do things differently but under the same live within your means model? Serious question. Other than keep changing personnel above the players.
I think it can be done, but it's really difficult. It would be like doing a Leicester and then staying up there with it.
I agree that the sugar-daddies are winning the battle.
I would obviously continue to support my club if that happened to us, but I wouldn't like it. I know this will horrify some, but I'd rather we never won anything again than win by outspending everyone else. It would seem like a hollow victory to me.
Anyway, it's not as if we're paupers - we spend plenty as it is, we just need to spend more wisely and get it right.
 
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