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Vic--sorry, but you miss the point. There is a difference between the traditional model of being a "selling club"--i.e. from time to time selling a player we have developed in order to finance the workings of the club-- and the model which Watford now seems to be a part of. Now the whole aim of the business is to find and develop young players and to sell them on at a profit. We are expected to be a "footballer factory" first and a "football club" second. Of course we need to be reasonably successful as a football club to produce saleable players on the scale the new owners expect-- meaning stay in the Championship, have an Academy that attracts talented youngsters--but we do not need to be in the Premiership, and the new owners will have no plans to take us there. They don't really need another stand. They need a good pitch and a good coaching staff.

I always thought that Bas would end up selling the club and keeping the pub. I don't think that was his "masterplan" when he bought into Watford, but it must have emerged as a possibility as the months went by and running a football club proved such a challenge for him. Use the club's resources to refurbish the pub , then take it with him when he quits. If it was anyone but Bas you would say he been clever. But he is no business genius--quite the opposite--and I would bet that before long he will be leaving that business too.
 
Roger68 said:
Vic--sorry, but you miss the point. There is a difference between the traditional model of being a "selling club"--i.e. from time to time selling a player we have developed in order to finance the workings of the club-- and the model which Watford now seems to be a part of. Now the whole aim of the business is to find and develop young players and to sell them on at a profit. We are expected to be a "footballer factory" first and a "football club" second. Of course we need to be reasonably successful as a football club to produce saleable players on the scale the new owners expect-- meaning stay in the Championship, have an Academy that attracts talented youngsters--but we do not need to be in the Premiership, and the new owners will have no plans to take us there. They don't really need another stand. They need a good pitch and a good coaching staff.

I always thought that Bas would end up selling the club and keeping the pub. I don't think that was his "masterplan" when he bought into Watford, but it must have emerged as a possibility as the months went by and running a football club proved such a challenge for him. Use the club's resources to refurbish the pub , then take it with him when he quits. If it was anyone but Bas you would say he been clever. But he is no business genius--quite the opposite--and I would bet that before long he will be leaving that business too.
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I genuinely don't think it will be like that. If anything I'd expect us to have a greater ability to hold onto players, make more money when we do sell, and bring in more players (Udinese/Granada or not).

The downside is that the investors expect a return, but then 95%+ of owners want that so that's to be expected.

I'm interested to see if we're being used as a feeder club for Udinese, which could be a shame..... but it's not inevitable. I definitely disagree on your Premier League point... especially now that the prize money is going up substantially. It would get them the big bucks, possibly more than Udinese....
 
They took Granada up two divisions. The higher level they can have the club running at the better the attraction for talent. I don't see us as a feeder club any more than Udinase will be feeding us. The business works through parallel development and I see interclub loans going in all directions depending on need and talent pool available at any given time in each club. In order to meet the objective a larger squad is needed with more raw talent in order to unearth the odd pearl. At the moment I'm liking the idea but do wish Baz would shut his gob. Watford Leisure limited is the delisted plc thats held the club for ages. Baz will keep Watford FC Ltd no doubt as well as Watford Leisure Ltd and the sale will be just the association football club. I can't remember where the ground sat in all this, I hope we're not splitting club from ground.....
 
Should we worry about a mass influx of players...will they get the time to settle?

Afterall whilst we'd probably get in better quality than the signings made last summer that the reason for the poor start was because players took time to gel etc.
 
It happened at Grenada that their new influx of players took time to settle, it took a new manager and a slow gelling for things to work...hopefully SD will get time to allow a new team to settle!
 
A quote from Baz " I have been here 14 months and I do not see my daughter at the weekends. I like to do everything with her and she doesn't like football so that is a massive reason (to sell)"

Oh dear god, please let him leave now!
 
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