Waste of taxpayers' money? Wow, we're getting political. This isn't banter, you actually have a gripe with this. Welsh is a FIRST language for thousands of people in Wales. Not millions, but thousands. The road signs have to be made regardless. It takes no time or effort for these signs to be translated into Welsh as it's a first language for many, and it takes barely a lick of paint extra. These signs have ALWAYS been bilingual. We haven't suddenly just decided to up and change every single one of them to try and be proud. If you want to be annoyed about it, I can't stop you, but I suggest you aim most of your animosity at London and the South East, not Wales, because like the far North, we also get given a hard time by our Government. On that note, I'm going to stop causing trouble on your board. Have a good day, everyone, and see you next season.
You're not causing any trouble unless, translated into Welsh, it means 'making of fool of yourself and avoiding the questions people have put'
Give over... Just like you just ignored all the points raised in my last post. There's a few other questions from my other posts I can point out that you haven't yet either. Welsh isn't going anywhere, unfortunately for you. In fact, it's growing. So complain about your tax all you want, you're pissing into the wind.
Nonsense ........ go on then, ask me again and I'll answer them blow for blow. As long as you do the same and stop pretending you actually speak Welsh .......... you don't. And no one in Wales doesn't understand English .......... fact! Anyway, I thought you'd already left Boyo.
I was still here trying to wipe all your **** from my shoes before I left...tough job! I spoke more Welsh in school and would have held conversations then, but I'd be lucky these days to get past pleasantries. I did go to an English speaking school though mind you. I have plenty of friends who went to Welsh speaking schools where you literally aren't allowed to speak English in the hallways or you face detention - those guys have never forgotten their Welsh. Like riding a bike for them I guess. Some of the older people may struggle if you spoke more technical English, but of course everyone speaks English in Wales, it would be almost impossible to live in Britain without speaking English! Don't worry about the questions. In the past. If you look through our conversation, you'll see them though. They were about football and we're hardly talking about it now! Hwyl fawr, boyo
The fact is that everyone in Wales speaks English, there are no exceptions and no need for the dual signs. Answer the question please ............. why don't you call yourselves Abertawe instead of the name we gave you? You even sing the English name when you ever do manage to sing ......... all I heard was that stupid drum yesterday.
We do, and we recognise ourselves as Abertawe in Swansea. The Welsh-speakers in Swansea will never call the city 'Swansea'. But the language of Britain is English. So, outside of Swansea and Wales, and for the English speakers, of course the city must be known by it's English name.
But you never sing Abertawe, say it at games, print it in your programme, have it on the scoreboard, print it on your badges or scarves ....... why's that? Cardiff sing their name in Welsh. Your signature is 'Swansea 'til I die! .......... why don't you 'recognise yourself as Abertawe' .......... point proven
Because 80% of Swansea don't speak Welsh. We're fed English newspapers and television and, as a result, Britain knows the city as Swansea, not Abertawe. But that other 20% of the city (which equates to thousands and thousands of people) do speak Welsh as a first language (meaning they speak it at home), and they have to put up with the rest of us ignorant English-speaking Welshmen. All people from Swansea know and recognise that the city is called Abertawe, Welsh-speaking or not, but for the sake of confusion for the rest of Britain, the big cities are all known by their English names...and as citizens of Swansea, we maintain that.
Cardiff do not sing their name in Welsh. Because the "Swansea 'til I die" chant was made by English speakers, not Welsh. And because the football chants must be all-inclusive. While everyone speaks English (first or second language), not everyone speaks Welsh. It's hard to make football chants that some people can't sing/understand.
Whereas 100% speak English hence the stupidity of having Ambiwlans on a big yellow van with blue flashing lights.
Well, I'm an English royalist, and extremely proud of it. But I don't think the revival of these native languages is a waste of taxpayers' money. I'm not only speaking about Welsh - I note with some interest that there are two or three web-sites contributing to a Cornish dictionary too (and Cornish is quite different from Welsh). I applaud the £400,000 we paid so that every child on a Hebridean island - I've forgotten which one - is taught to be bi-lingual (English and their native Goidelic Gaelic - which is different from both Welsh and Cornish). I think these things enrich the culture of these islands. If we're looking for minority interests that waste tax-payers money, how about opera and ballet? We pour nearly £20 million a year (every year!) into Covent Garden and Drury Lane. And for what? I bloody hate both. That's my opinion anyway, and I'm sticking to it.
Are you claiming people in Swansea couldn't sing, or understand Abertawe ........ ffs man, I understand and I'm English
Just because everyone speaks English doesn't mean that everyone thinks in English. If you speak Welsh as a first language, you expect to see Welsh, not English. Seeing a Welsh sign allows thousands upon thousands of Welsh-speaking (first language) people to live just as normally as you would in Sunderland with English signs. It's about respect to those people who live, speak, hear, read and dream in Welsh, and who living in Wales should have a right to expect Welsh signs.
And you think every chant is just the city name sung over and over?? I don't know what you chant at the SoL, but our chants are more than chanting our city name.
It's just fantasy though ........... there aren't thousands upon thousands of Welsh-speaking (first language) people.
There are though. Deny it if you want to please yourself, but there actually are. I work in the translation industry (project managing, not translating) and I see it every day.
