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Sour Patch said:
A bit uncomfortable with moving Batth on. However, I have wanted the club to get better at moving players on at the right time for years now and if we feel like his legs have gone or he doesn’t fit the style of play then I am fine with it
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Baath hasnt looked anywhere near so far this season. Be amazed if he is fit based on appearances. If he is last years Baath he is a nailed on starter, best defender at the club. If he isnt then perhaps we do have options.

Plus if the lad wants to move on for more certainty of playing time, it would be harsh to block his move at his age. Club treating players fairly just improves our reputation.
 
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Yeh I think its fair to say he's one of our higher earners and we want to use his wages elsewhere. Hence bringing in lower wage but higher potential alternative in Triantis.

They're basically playing FM. Its exactly how I play that game. As soon as a player gets 28/29 I get itchy feet and want them sold whilst they still have value, before accidentally hoovering up to many youth players in the same position and then have to scramble to loan them out :D

I'm seeing them hitting the same quandaries I hit playing a computer game :D

Of course KLD has said in the past he's a massive fan of FM so perhaps this is how he plays as well. I've never seen somebody try it in real life.
 
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Culinary said:
That’s not right or true. He wants to go. His family isn’t up here and the fact he can’t drive makes it very difficult for him.
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Yep, think you are spot on with this mate. Shame, as a good player, but I can say with confidence if we do right by Baath on this it will reflect really well on us with players and agents in future negotiations.
 
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Scout73 said:
I was speaking to a guy at work who is in the same friends group at batth (he did say he isnt really close to him but they chat occasionally as they grew up together and have the same mates). Said hes heard he is really homesick n is missing his family, so wont sign a new deal with us. He did say his info was 2nd hand but had come from one of batths best mates

He did also say that batth loves the club but is just unsettled with being away from his family a lot

The guy isnt the type to make stuff up so hes def passed it on in good faith

Would make sense as surely we wouldnt want to lose him just yet without knowing if the 2 new lads are ready for 1st team football
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That’s accurate.
Prehab26 said:
He wants to go because he was told he wouldnt be getting a contract here. Other stuff is fair, but stems from contract and security.
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That’s not. Maybe if we’d offered him something significant in terms of length of contract it may have given him food for thought but it’s by no means the driver for his departure.

I’ve said more than I’d like to, more than I should and more than I ever normally would but you know how much stock people on here put in what you say so it’s not fair to misinform or spin to support your view just because you’re having a wobble.
 
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rooch 3 said:
Being told you are getting sacked in a few month, and they wonder why his form has suffered<doh>
Sorry to say but if that was me I’d be another Jack Rodwell.
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He’s not being sacked. He’s completing his contract. Whether he’s been told it definitely won’t be renewed is just speculation isn’t it? Even if he has that seems to just be doing the right thing by him so he can consider any offers in a properly informed way.
 
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Culinary said:
That’s accurate.

That’s not. Maybe if we’d offered him something significant in terms of length of contract it may have given him food for thought but it’s by no means the driver for his departure.

I’ve said more than I’d like to, more than I should and more than I ever normally would but you know how much stock people on here put in what you say so it’s not fair to misinform or spin to support your view just because you’re having a wobble.
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That's not on to be fair. I was told it all started when he wanted more security and wanted the extra year after last years performance and POTS. That wasnt on the table and that's made the other things come more to the forefront.
 
I wouldnt give him another year, due to his age.

I'd likely give him till January, especially to help ease Seelt in to his new surroundings. But who are we to say Batth wants to stay for x months to mentor young defenders? He wants to play and also wants job security. We cant give him that, due to his age.

I'm more concerned about O9 getting the armband and being 1st choice, but Seelt and Alese will really challenge him, once both fit. Triantis also to prove himself.

For what its worth - i know somebody who is a DoF at a club, and he was absolutely loving Seelt - thinks we have bagged a real player.

Its impossible to keep 6 centre halves, and also madness. Something has to give.
 
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sandancer12 said:
I wouldnt give him another year, due to his age.

I'd likely give him till January, especially to help ease Seelt in to his new surroundings. But who are we to say Batth wants to stay for x months to mentor young defenders? He wants to play and also wants job security. We cant give him that, due to his age.

I'm more concerned about O9 getting the armband and being 1st choice, but Seelt and Alese will really challenge him, once both fit. Triantis also to prove himself.

For what its worth - i know somebody who is a DoF at a club, and he was absolutely loving Seelt - thinks we have bagged a real player.

Its impossible to keep 6 centre halves, and also madness. Something has to give.
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If we had 6 centre backs I would agree. We have 4 , soon to be 3. 09 and Alese are not traditional centre backs and shouldn't be considered there. They can fill in but yeah.

I do agree with Seelt. Has to get fit like.
 
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Sorry like but O9 and Alese are good enough to play CH in the Champ., so they're part of the CH pool we have of soon to be 5.

I just cant see O9 being part of a 1st choice promotion 11. Good enough squad player tho.

Both can cover full backs also.
 
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sandancer12 said:
Sorry like but O9 and Alese are good enough to play CH in the Champ., so they're part of the CH pool we have of soon to be 5.

Both can cover full backs also.
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I see them more as full back than centre backs. Especially in a traditional 4 back. Got to be honest, I am extremely worried at having 09 at centre half in this 4 back with attacking fullbacks
 
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Prehab26 said:
I see them more as full back than centre backs. Especially in a traditional 4 back. Got to be honest, I am extremely worried at having 09 at centre half in this 4 back with attacking fullbacks
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O9 is fine to fill-in but loses his spot when Seelt and Alese are fit, whoever is first.
 
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