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Sour Patch said:
From what the ITK’s seem to be saying, the contract that was on the table before the second injury was a good one. It should’ve really been sorted last summer thats the main problem I have
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That was Stewart and his agents fault, it was never taken from the table after his injury just the club wouldn't allow him to sign it, there maybe an offer now that if it was signed would be the same offer with clauses in to do with the injury or prove your fitness and the original offer is there.
I'm just guessing at the second part as the changes but the first part about the club putting it on hold is right
 
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WorkyTicketFTM said:
Oh 100% if it’s careless. I see it from from both sides, the club are trying to protect themselves but if you were in Stewart’s shoes you’d be thinking I fired the goals to get us promoted, was scoring nearly a goal a game in the championship and now I’ve got clubs offering X amount of wages whilst my own club won’t offer me a new contract on less than what I’m being offered elsewhere until I prove I can stay fit which is running his contract down even further. It’s probably a kick in the teeth for him.

Personally I don’t really care who stays or goes if the moneys right, I get more of a buzz out of finding someone better to replace them but if I was in his shoes I’d probably be a bit pissed off.

He has less than 12 months on his contract and he’s 26/27, his next deal is an important one for him and his family he’s been on ****e money most of his career. If I was in that position I’d want the security.
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I understood no club has made an offer for Stewart? And we do not know how much he was offered last season, though it is unlikely to have been less than the higher earners here.

It was THAT contract he should have signed, his first really good one and one that would have set him up. His agent is an idiot for not telling him that. Further benefits or moves would have followed had he continued his form.

Now, if he gets back playing in October, he will have played only a small handful of games in over a year, with a serious injury behind him.

No-one knows. But given that, I doubt there is anyone offering any more now than we were offering this time last year. And he has now spent over a year, possibly ending up two, on much less money. That will take a lot of making up.

He has taken some extremely bad advice, and everything now depends for him on recovering fully from one of the worst injuries in football. Unfortunately this is not certain at all.
 
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TPFNAC said:
Figures from Capology and only an estimate. Not one SAFC player on that website has been verified - plus it has poor old Patto on £769 a week
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Regardless of one players being incorrect by a few grand it’s not going to be too far away, it’s still a huge jump from what we CAN spend - apparently anyway.

I’m just making my uneducated assumption based on the info that’s out there and the fact 2 of the newly promoted L1 sides have wage bills higher than ours
 
WorkyTicketFTM said:
Regardless of one players being incorrect by a few grand it’s not going to be too far away, it’s still a huge jump from what we CAN spend - apparently anyway.

I’m just making my uneducated assumption based on the info that’s out there and the fact 2 of the newly promoted L1 sides have wage bills higher than ours
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And I'm assuming the people that look after wage structure at the club have a good idea of what we can and do actually pay so that we never fall foul of ffp wage rules
 
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Smug in Boots said:
The problem is that you can't force any player to agree to a contract ...

... which can make it look like you're not trying hard enough.

Stewart is doing himself no favours imo.

If he becomes seen as someone trying to blackmail a club, that's supported him through two injuries, he won't do his prospects any good. Even Sunderland supporters, who've seen him in action, are starting to turn against him.

His face, during the lap of honour, did it for me tbh.
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Yep. I think he must have realised he had rolled the dice and they'd came up badly.

A pro footballer, and certainly one 26/27 and who hasn't really earned a lot by that time, should ALWAYS, sign the first " set you up" deal he can get, especially at a decent club.

Very bad agent probably, but he's a fully grown bloke not a callow youngun and should have known better.
 
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BellionGoalVersusVilla said:
They were close to what he wanted before the injury, and then reverted their offer after the injury... So I think you can slightly understand why he has not signed.
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Well you can also understand why the club took his earlier reluctance into account when they revised the offer after his injury.

He had months to sign a contract and didn't. Still hasn't.
 
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rowley said:
Well you can also understand why the club took his earlier reluctance into account when they revised the offer after his injury.

He had months to sign a contract and didn't. Still hasn't.
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If they DID revise the offer in Jan (and I’m pretty certain they didn’t) then I can understand Stewart’s retisence
 
TopCat_ said:
If they DID revise the offer in Jan (and I’m pretty certain they didn’t) then I can understand Stewart’s retisence
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Yes. But he sat on an offer for months on end, so you can understand the club wondering about his commitment if he only wanted to sign it when he was crocked.

In all honesty, I'd be wondering whether or not I'd play him when he gets fit, if it's just to show other clubs that he is fit and recovered. It's not all about him, there are twenty odd other players and much else besides.
 
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rowley said:
Yes. But he sat on an offer for months on end, so you can understand the club wondering about his commitment if he only wanted to sign it when he was crocked.

In all honesty, I'd be wondering whether or not I'd play him when he gets fit, if it's just to show other clubs that he is fit and recovered. It's not all about him, there are twenty odd other players and much else besides.
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Ultimately, the goals he scores this season could be the difference between promotion or staying in this league. So I say let’s finish as high as we can and then see who wants to sign what contracts if we are a Premier League team
 
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