Gooch is the new Darren WilliamsI wonder if Gooch himself, or Mowbray see him as a right back. I am not so sure. He is a utility man these days, in the mold of some of the good old fashioned utility players. He can play either full back role, wide right and even wide left at a push. Maybe in the 9 sub era this sort of player is less valuable, but I wouldnt be selling him just on the basis he is a 3rd choice right back. Not saying you are guilty of this but there are a few who have been on his case for a while now saying he is not good enough. I disagree, he is good enough to be in the squad. People are in danger of seeing off the character in our squad that makes it easy for young lads to flourish anf feel at home. The value of Gooch and ONien extends far beyond 90mins on a Saturday, in my opinion. A squad of 22 or 23 needs a range of characters, Gooch is a leader and a heart on the sleeve lad.
That's kind of how buy back clauses work. Just look at Xavi Simons.They can't just buy him back because they decide they want to
Bit of a pal of mine was Dazzler. Not in touch anymore mind. A fair bit younger than me but we had some shared pals. 100% committed and loved playing here, without being the best by any means. Canny lad.Gooch is the new Darren Williams
Na he's not garbage. Being a 60 odd year old Sunderland supporter I should know I’ve seen my fair share of Garbage the likes of Grigg were garbage he coudn't be arsed. Gooch May be limited and does make the odd awful mistake but works his socks off never hides and has produced some great stuff He may have to move on as we develop but he’s not garbageHe’s garbage and we have Hume, Huggins and Crompton who can all play there naturally plus O’nien. Probably a decent lad to have in the dressing room but he should be nowhere near our Xl if we’re serious about promotion.
Always down to the player thoughThat's kind of how buy back clauses work. Just look at Xavi Simons.
PSG bought him back from PSV and loaning him to RB Leipzig.
Obviously the player has to want to and Spurs need defenders. Ange would love Cirkin his sort of player all over.
Na he's not garbage. Being a 60 odd year old Sunderland supporter I should know I’ve seen my fair share of Garbage the likes of Grigg were garbage he coudn't be arsed. Gooch May be limited and does make the odd awful mistake but works his socks off never hides and has produced some great stuff He may have to move on as we develop but he’s not garbage
I love Gooch, but you are rightI think that’s the thing though, he’s not judged on his footballing ability he’s judged on his work rate and loyalty to the club - both of those are unquestionable, nor is his importance in the dressing room.
But Cirkin is currently a decent championship standard full back, Gooch is absolutely nowhere near that standard. So many games last season teams would come to the SoL and everything seemed to go down our right.
Being told we are keeping an eye on Sampdoria’s young attacker Daniele Montevago as Speakman and Harvey want contest with Hemir just like they want a young goalkeeper to push on Patterson and each other.
This. I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see Gooch leave late on in the window.I love Gooch, but you are right
Can’t disagree with that. Just thought garbage did him a massive disservice. With the likes of Hume and Huggins kicking on I think he will play less Will be interesting to see if the club are happy for him to move onI think that’s the thing though, he’s not judged on his footballing ability he’s judged on his work rate and loyalty to the club - both of those are unquestionable, nor is his importance in the dressing room.
But Cirkin is currently a decent championship standard full back, Gooch is absolutely nowhere near that standard. So many games last season teams would come to the SoL and everything seemed to go down our right.
He, like Embleton and O9 are players that I think we need to retain as options off the bench and players who would never let us down. Big characters off the pitch and (in the case of Gooch and Embo) massive Sunderland fans. Not to be underestimatedGooch.
It seems Stoke, Preston and QPR are interested.
Some people think he's not very good.
Does that mean those three teams are inferior?
Great news.
I think we’ve generally been better with Gooch in the side since we were relegated to league one and personally think dropping him in the run in under was was a massive contributor to us not being promoted at the first attempt. I’m not convinced he’s third choice RB, for all that he looks excellent when fit I think that’s Huggins, we can’t, yet, have any confidence he’s going to be available. I’d definitely keep Gooch.I wonder if Gooch himself, or Mowbray see him as a right back. I am not so sure. He is a utility man these days, in the mold of some of the good old fashioned utility players. He can play either full back role, wide right and even wide left at a push. Maybe in the 9 sub era this sort of player is less valuable, but I wouldnt be selling him just on the basis he is a 3rd choice right back. Not saying you are guilty of this but there are a few who have been on his case for a while now saying he is not good enough. I disagree, he is good enough to be in the squad. People are in danger of seeing off the character in our squad that makes it easy for young lads to flourish anf feel at home. The value of Gooch and ONien extends far beyond 90mins on a Saturday, in my opinion. A squad of 22 or 23 needs a range of characters, Gooch is a leader and a heart on the sleeve lad.
Gooch is a valuable player, we need to keep him
Let's get rid of Gooch and bring back Jack Rodwell........ffs.Gooch.
It seems Stoke, Preston and QPR are interested.
Some people think he's not very good.
Does that mean those three teams are inferior?
Great news.