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You do realise Man City beat a team in the final that ended 3rd in their league 18 points behind the leaders. Should say , just beat.

That's the point though isn't it? That the competition is much harder these days, Inter (who finished 2nd in Serie A the year before) are a far far better team than e.g. the champions of Northern Ireland or Iceland.
 
Ross Stewart contract and injury recovery update issued by Sunderland's Sporting Director
Sunderland's Sporting Director has given an injury and contract update on striker Ross Stewart

Kristjaan Speakman says that he remains 'really optimistic' that Sunderland can reach an agreement over a new long-term contract for Ross Stewart as the Scot closes in on a return to fitness.

Stewart has not played for Sunderland since suffering a major achilles injury in the FA Cup third round tie at Fulham, and is now entering the final year of the contract he signed to make the switch from Ross County in January 2021.

The Scot has been a huge success on Wearside, and managed 11 goals in just 17 appearances during an injury-hit campaign last time out.

Speaking at the Foundation of Light's fixture release breakfast on Thursday morning, Speakman confirmed the 26-year-old is making good progress in his recovery but is unlikely to be fully fit for the beginning of the Championship campaign. Sunderland will face Ipswich Town at the Stadium of Light on Sunday August 6th, live on Sky Sports.

Stewart has been working hard at the Academy of Light over the summer in a bid to get back to fitness, but he still has a little way to go as his teammates begin pre-season training on Monday.

"Ross won’t be [fully fit] at the front end of the pre-season period, it’s more likely to be in the middle or towards the end.

"I wouldn’t want to give out false information to anyone and we'll have to see [how he progresses] but that means we would doubt whether he will be ready to start the season.

"All the injured players have been working really hard during the summer with the medical staff."

Sunderland had been in dialogue with Stewart over a new deal for some time before his injury in January, and the Sporting Director said that those talks will continue.

The Black Cats have announced new deals for Trai Hume and Dennis Cirkin this summer, and remain hopeful that Stewart will follow at some stage in the weeks and months ahead.

Speakman has suggested that Stewart's recovery is likely to come first, as he looks to replicate his excellent goalscoring form across the last two seasons.

"I’ve said all along that it has to work for both sides, and that doesn’t mean there is any negativity on either side. As a player you’ve got to be comfortable with your deal and as a club you’ve got to manage everything from your side with budgets etc.

"Hopefully we can find a conclusion, and Ross getting fit is obviously going to be a key factor in that."

Sunderland are expected to remain in the market for more depth last month, after signing Hemir from Benfica B in a seven-figure deal.

"It’s just an ongoing conversation," Speakman said, speaking to supporters at the Beacon of Light.

"We’ve been working really, really hard with the squad, we had a good conversation with Trai Hume and we managed to get that concluded.

"We had an equally long with Dennis Cirkin and we’ve just managed to get that concluded, so I’m really optimistic that we can try to tick off some of these additional ones on the to-do list.

"I’ve said all along that it has to work for both sides, and that doesn’t mean there is any negativity on either side. As a player you’ve got to be comfortable with your deal and as a club you’ve got to manage everything from your side with budgets etc.

"Hopefully we can find a conclusion, and Ross getting fit is obviously going to be a key factor in that."

Sunderland are expected to remain in the market for more depth last month, after signing Hemir from Benfica B in a seven-figure deal.


Ross Stewart contract and injury recovery update issued by Sunderland's Sporting Director | Sunderland Echo
Seems to basically confirm what I was told and posted a few days back.
 
Rubberface from rtg said we are looking at Alvaro Djalo from Braga
Watched some of his highlights, looks rapid - poor decision making but he looks a threat. He plays on either wing by the look of it but he looks better on the left so probably be an option as a back up to Clarke. Can beat his opponent inside or out with pace, he is right footed but looked comfortable getting to the byline and crossing with his left foot

Some Stats from this season:
Goals = 2
Assists = 3
Completes 70% of his passes - mostly looks to pass forward
Averages 7.55 dribbles a game and completes just under 50% of these (needs to learn not to dribble into the crowded area of the pitch)
Averages 2.29 crosses a game - completes 40% of these (pretty good stats for crosses completed)
Also regains 4.57 balls in the opposition half - this is the stat teams look at for whether they could be an effective presser so this suits us

Overall looks a decent prospect especially as a back up with the upside to really push Clarke
 
No, you stated playing against teams who won their respective league no matter which league that is, makes for a more difficult competition than nowadays because Inter Milan were in the final and finished 3rd.

I just stated that the team who finished 3rd in the league beat 3 teams who’d finished 1st in their domestic league - proof that playing the “best” team of said country doesn’t necessarily mean you’re playing a better team.
This is a good read if you haven’t already read it mate.perhaps the best place to start is to imagine Huddersfield Town, 13th in the Championship last season, winning promotion next May, then the Premier League at the first attempt, back-to-back Champions Leagues, a couple of Capital One Cups and creating a record for going unbeaten in the top division – 42 matches in Forest’s case – that would last a quarter of a century.
Forest were that team: 13th in the old Division Two when Clough landed his coat on the peg for the first time, on 6 January 1975. They did all the above within five years, as well as knocking Liverpool, the double European Cup winners, off their perch, long before Sir Alex Ferguson coined the phrase. They did it with five players – Anderson, Martin O’Neill, Ian Bowyer, Tony Woodcock and John Robertson – who were there from the start and the journey took them from five points off the relegation places into Division Three, with sub-8,000 gates, to Camp Nou, taking on Barcelona for the Super Cup. Another trophy was added to the collection and when they left the stadium that night there was a mob waiting outside. “Two rows of Barcelona fans, eight deep, all the way from the exit to our coach,” John McGovern, the captain, recalls. “They were all very quiet and I thought: ‘We could be in trouble here.’ It was then they started clapping. As we walked to our coach they clapped us all the way. Not a Forest fan in sight, all Barcelona fans. Clapping us out of their own stadium.”

The story will never happen again but, equally, it had never happened before either. People forget that Forest went up with 52 points, the fifth-lowest of any promoted team in history, and that they lost to York, Peterborough and, twice, Bristol Rovers before Peter Taylor joined Clough’s side and everything suddenly clicked with a team described in one newspaper as “a mix of fresh and well-worn faces who ought to be slogging it out at the bottom of the table”.
 
Liverpool.

Worlds most expensive GK
Worlds most expensive CB

Diaz, Jota, Salah, Thiago, Keita (disaster), Darwin…

Hardly pennies is it?

Of course not. They are a huge club with a lot of money. But the point holds that they have limits, hence backing out of the Bellingham deal, and a club funded by a country does not. That's all it comes down to.

If Liverpool or Arsenal waste big amounts, which on occasion they have, it hurts them. Mistakes don't really hurt City. And no one trusts their accounts, but they can't be taken on because they have a limitless legal defence budget.

This does not detract from Pep's ability, but it does give context to his achievements .
 
Of course not. They are a huge club with a lot of money. But the point holds that they have limits, hence backing out of the Bellingham deal, and a club funded by a country does not. That's all it comes down to.

If Liverpool or Arsenal waste big amounts, which on occasion they have, it hurts them. Mistakes don't really hurt City. And no one trusts their accounts, but they can't be taken on because they have a limitless legal defence budget.

This does not detract from Pep's ability, but it does give context to his achievements .


Just popped up in my news feed! Interesting

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You played the top team of each country but English football clubs were spending money, hence why they dominated European football in that period from 76-83 an English team won it every season bar one.

By that logic if I went and took Man City then put them in 3 knock out games against Dundalk, KuPS Kuopio and Malmo that’s a harder format than we currently have?

You had teams winning by 12+ goals in a single for **** sake :emoticon-0102-bigsm
We dominated Europe in that period because two of the best managers this country has ever seen, produced teams that Were capable of dominating Europe, no other English team have done that,as for English teams were spending money, i think you’ll find pre-premier times the only country where the big wages were was Italy
 
We dominated Europe in that period because two of the best managers this country has ever seen, produced teams that Were capable of dominating Europe, no other English team have done that,as for English teams were spending money, i think you’ll find pre-premier times the only country where the big wages were was Italy

Keegan, Rush, Souness, Kennedy, Dalgliesh? Weren’t exactly pennies.. Forest smashed the British transfer record when they signed Trevor Francis, for double the previous record.

Success in English football has generally followed the money most of the time. Liverpool late 70s/80s, Everton/Arsenal late 80s, United 90s then Chelsea after the millennium and City after that.
 
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