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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Hudson92, Mar 24, 2023.

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  1. Downeys Loup

    Downeys Loup Well-Known Member

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    The simple logic for me is he either accepts it or we make it known he can move on for right price. If we don’t get the right fee he stays and can then either sign a new contract (potentially for less then we are currently offering as Ross and his agent will have just had a reality check on his value) or sign a pre-contract in January with someone else. For me it’s not a stalemate rather just moving through a process. To mis-quote Alex Ferguson, no-one is bigger than the model. Potential replacements will be identified and ready to be moved on as and when a decision is reached.

    Be interested to know what Bob’s thoughts are on all this but maybe he needs to avoid involvement in any speculation for professional reasons.
     
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  2. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    It’s one thing playing hardball, it’s another alienating and essentially forcing the hand of a premium asset.

    Stewart could easily be talked about in the £30million bracket had he stayed fit all season and bagged 20 plus (which he would have, and then some).

    You can’t buy another Stewart, there simply isn’t one on the market right now.

    That said, we can play and prosper without him, if he is to go we want a big fee, we get **** all if he’s not tied down.
     
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  3. malagamackem

    malagamackem Well-Known Member

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    From the ITK - he gets on very well with AN and more money
     
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  4. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    But it’s ****ing Stoke. If someone wants to leave us for Stoke, are they the kinda player we want?

    I doubt Roscoe dreams of playing in front of a half empty stadium with nee corners, but I’ll always understand the money aspect.
     
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    I’ve no doubt that AN wanted Stewart at a point in time, and would pay decent wages, but unfortunately the lads a liability atm, nobody’s gonna pay good money and v good wages for a player to live in the treatment room. If he goes, I reckon it’ll be in January after proving he can play several months without another injury.
     
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  6. young2077

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    Gets on very well with AN, why should a player give a **** about that in all honesty. He is supposed to be the boss, don't have to get on with your boss. More important to get on with a few team mates.

    I don't think he wanted to sign for what was offered, if he did he would have signed it straight away. Makes no sense delaying it if you are happy as its literally missing out on money.

    This may change cause of the injury but it seems he thought he could get more elsewhere.
     
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  7. Pure River Slut

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    I’ve said this before. Financially for the club we have a a top striker that in top strikers terms we are paying nothing to. If we sign another striker of the same guaranteed quality we likely pay much much more for a years work. So if he refuses to sign a deal that we believe is fair and right for the club we can keep him another year and enjoy his goals. Or he signs for longer and we pay more which is better for him. In a sense if he refuses to sign and we sell we have to get a high fee to offset the additional wages for the next man or offset the savings we pay . If we look like going up automatically and let’s say Stoke don’t he is best staying. So I say keep him unless people throw big money at a player with a questionable recent injury.
    Of course the downside of that is the player downs tools but tbh I don’t think he can afford to because he has to prove he is fit and firing again.
     
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  8. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    No way he is the kind to down tools for me.

    I think we gonna see what we dealing with January as you say.
     
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  9. Nonsense Potter

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    Really happy with the Semedo signing. Looks like he might be great and just what we need. 1 or 2 more strikers would be great. What's Chris Martin up to? :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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  10. Daz

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    I’m sure many people do…right up until he stabs them in the back
     
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  11. young2077

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    On tour with his band I reckon!
     
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  12. Saf

    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    Neves to the Saudi league for 47m. Wow.
     
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  13. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    What a waste of a lad in his prime.

    That said, they be paying him million a week or whatever so can’t blame the lad.
     
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    Wickham got released by cardiff so we could go for him like folk suggested
     
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    So he'll be a newcastle player within a season or two then?
     
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    What do we reckon is left to bring in?

    1 striker
    1 winger
    Experienced CM ?

    Potentially some future players to be integrated in same bracket as Jewi and Ba?

    Hopefully be more faces to come in yet!
     
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  17. Oliver's Army

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    And contracts for Roberts and Clarke.
     
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    I could see a few leaving so I reckon a number 10 might be on the list
     
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    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    Al Hilal and Newcastle do have the same owners... I can see it now, Neves to Newcastle and his old Saudi club agree to pay 80% of his wages to get him off the books and help the mags out with FFP...
     
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    if man u give the go ahead amad will be back
     
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