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I’d think Mvogo might want to play in World Cup year so he might only be an option if he was to be first choice, which I doubt think he’d be enough of a step up to justify dropping Patto.

We need somebody good enough to play premier league football but who has no chance of playing in the World Cup so is more willing to be backup.
 
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I mean either way we need to sign players for depth in other positions. Would you class the at as a waste? Or just have subpar depth?
Outfield depth is different as it’s drastically more likely to be used. I’d still prefer a smaller squad of greater versatility though. Two players per position isn’t really the best way to think about things in reality. Even more so when you consider who our boss is!:emoticon-0102-bigsm
 
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Sure he can, but he can't do the other part which is playing in the premier league.
In our last 10 premier league seasons our “ cover” keeper played over 100 times so roughly 10 games a season on average. At various times that role was effectively filled by Mannone, Pantilimon, Pickford, Fulop, Mignolet, and Westwood. I think it’s safe to say they would all be a long way ahead of Moore and arguably most could be ahead of Patto.
We definitely need a keeper in my opinion.
 
In our last 10 premier league seasons our “ cover” keeper played over 100 times so roughly 10 games a season on average. At various times that role was effectively filled by Mannone, Pantilimon, Pickford, Fulop, Mignolet, and Westwood. I think it’s safe to say they would all be a long way ahead of Moore and arguably most could be ahead of Patto.
We definitely need a keeper in my opinion.
Yep 100%

Premier league is strenuous on every player and need at least semi decent depth
 
Outfield depth is different as it’s drastically more likely to be used. I’d still prefer a smaller squad of greater versatility though. Two players per position isn’t really the best way to think about things in reality. Even more so when you consider who our boss is!:emoticon-0102-bigsm
Whatever we do that winger and fullback depth needs to be addressed. We have Mundle and Roberts. Poveda needs shifted and Watson is gone
 
In our last 10 premier league seasons our “ cover” keeper played over 100 times so roughly 10 games a season on average. At various times that role was effectively filled by Mannone, Pantilimon, Pickford, Fulop, Mignolet, and Westwood. I think it’s safe to say they would all be a long way ahead of Moore and arguably most could be ahead of Patto.
We definitely need a keeper in my opinion.
See I’d argue that a lot of that was just indecision. For so much of our PL stint we spent our time choosing between equally mediocre keepers. We were unconvinced with one option so we switched to another unconvincing option - often only to switch back when it priced to be ineffective. To be fair, it worked out for us once. That injury to Mannone that opened the door to Pickford made a big difference - even if it only amounted to a £30m chunk out of our debt.
 
It makes no sense.

There’s literally no point spending at all if we are leaving holes in the squad.

Not having a keeper deputy would be an absolutely insane gamble. Moore is great off the park and has been fine, but he is woefully short of PL standard.

If we can’t drop a couple of million to cover a vital position we may as well forfeit the season.

We aren’t spending on a reserve keeper an amount that would seriously impact what we can spend elsewhere.

The idea that we'll spend £100m on players and then not protect our status as a Premier League club by spending £3m on a keeper is far from logical in my opinion.

I understand the "theory" of the argument perfectly well, but reality is that the situation will not come down to "either a first team player or a reserve keeper".

Last season, these are the teams that had a 2nd keeper playing 5+ games:

Liverpool
Newcastle
Man City
Spurs
Ipswich
West Ham
Leicester
Wolves
Chelsea
Southampton
Bournemouth

I'm not sure if that's a statistical anomaly, but it's not worth the risk for me.
 
If we were to bring in a 'keeper (I think we should), it should be on a free if possible.

What about Yvon Mvogo? Out of contract and played under RLB at Lorient.
Definitely don't want us spending loads on a back up GK but quite happy if we sign a quality one and it costs a couple minutes

If Moore is back up we are a Patterson injury away from a potential disaster

Need 2 good Gks for the PL as a minimum, Moore would be a class no3 imo due to his attitude around the squad

Don't think anyone is wanting silly money spent on a back up GK but we need to be strengthening across the board for sure
 
The idea that we'll spend £100m on players and then not protect our status as a Premier League club by spending £3m on a keeper is far from logical in my opinion.

I understand the "theory" of the argument perfectly well, but reality is that the situation will not come down to "either a first team player or a reserve keeper".

Last season, these are the teams that had a 2nd keeper playing 5+ games:

Liverpool
Newcastle
Man City
Spurs
Ipswich
West Ham
Leicester
Wolves
Chelsea
Southampton
Bournemouth

I'm not sure if that's a statistical anomaly, but it's not worth the risk for me.

It would be absolute stupidity mate.
 
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Hope Graeme is chatting **** as usual. If he is who we want I hope we move quick. That’s Us, Everton, Fulham, Leeds and these now linked
 
Whatever we do that winger and fullback depth needs to be addressed. We have Mundle and Roberts. Poveda needs shifted and Watson is gone
Yep. I’d be concentrating on high quality and versatility though. Would be sorely tempted to roll the dice at right back given how robust Hume is (with O’Nien and maybe even Huggins in there). Left back is more complicated. Wingers are key, but even then it should be quality rather than quantity if possible. Starter on the right plus an option who can play either side (and maybe through the middle) would be plenty for us imo.
 
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Hope Graeme is chatting **** as usual. If he is who we want I hope we move quick. That’s Us, Everton, Fulham, Leeds and these now linked

now Villa are linked I’m on the train
 
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Hope Graeme is chatting **** as usual. If he is who we want I hope we move quick. That’s Us, Everton, Fulham, Leeds and these now linked

Tbf i'd be willing to pull a triple deal with kyiv like forest are doing with botafogo if it got us a good deal. I'm still pretty big on Mykhavko and Brazhko - wolves were after the latter in January alongside a couple other prem sides and was almost agreed but they couldn't sort out a payment structure.
 
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