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What catastrophe? I don’t have the answers, I’m just applying common logic based on what we see season after season. Of course we’d all love to get promoted, sign nobody and finish mid table in the PL but come back down to planet earth it’s not happening. Anyone thinking we can assemble a squad in the championship that can go up and compete in a league filled with £300m+ squads at the very minimum, without spending massively, is living in cuckoo land. Wolves are ****e and they’ve got 3 Brazilian internationals starting every week. How many of our starting Xl would get into their team? Without bothering to even look I’d say 0, or 1 at a push. We would not get near them, as proven against Newcastle last season. They absolutely took the piss out of us it was like watching a training match. As stated above, Ipswich were better than we are now and have spent about £130m just to come back down.

Okey dokey …
 
Well there’s some things you seem to have a memory block with, did we not have all these millions of pounds when we were relegated to the championship and then to league one, so can you enlighten me what good all that money did us, you also seem to forget the football in league one is dogs-hit the Championship isn’t it’s brilliant. I love the Championship but I’m also quite happy to go to the Premiership when we have a team that stands a chance like the Reid team.
This team will get slaughtered weekly and then this forum would be stuck with you and half a dozen others whining 24/7 to the point most decent lads will leave. This team is not going to improve much as KLD is not going to spend his own money ( and I don’t blame him ) so you can probably expect a grim season ahead that won’t be a tenth as enjoyable as another season in the Championship.
Well said Rooch, I'd like to think I'm one of those decent posters.
Will I stick around after this season? Don't think so regardless of whatever league we end up.
Haven't posted much this last month or so as I'm sick of drowning in the plethora of the band of brothers on here who cannot see other than doom and gloom, but finish with the 'I hope I'm proved wrong' get out clause.
I made a simple comment a few days ago and was met with repeated attempts for me to justify what is said cos it didn't suit their agenda so I just gave up. When posters like Scout73 walk away some on here should be very worried about this site.
Been here since 2011 but can't see it lasting much longer.
 
What catastrophe? I don’t have the answers, I’m just applying common logic based on what we see season after season. Of course we’d all love to get promoted, sign nobody and finish mid table in the PL but come back down to planet earth it’s not happening. Anyone thinking we can assemble a squad in the championship that can go up and compete in a league filled with £300m+ squads at the very minimum, without spending massively, is living in cuckoo land. Wolves are ****e and they’ve got 3 Brazilian internationals starting every week. How many of our starting Xl would get into their team? Without bothering to even look I’d say 0, or 1 at a push. We would not get near them, as proven against Newcastle last season. They absolutely took the piss out of us it was like watching a training match. As stated above, Ipswich were better than we are now and have spent about £130m just to come back down.
I think all of the above is likely. However from there it’s not that hard to understand why some might not be looking forward to the PL experience. Being honest, what you’ve outlined sounds absolutely ****e:emoticon-0102-bigsm

It’s why I don’t get the sackcloth and ashes thing about this season being ‘our only chance’ either. Most importantly this is our second ‘only chance’ in the past three seasons. But another thing is that the PL sounds like an absolute chore. So while the club could ‘go for it’ and spend money it can’t afford for the chance to get there asap, I’m happy enough for us to concentrate on getting stronger in a gradual, sustainable way with confidence that we’ll get there in time. The whole win or bust mentality from the fans this season makes little sense - particularly from fans who are clear about how bad it’ll be when we get there. Hopefully this year is our year, but I’m not all that terrified if it isn’t. The most important bit of the whole thing is likely to be the fanbase’s reaction to the mentality switch.
 
I think all of the above is likely. However from there it’s not that hard to understand why some might not be looking forward to the PL experience. Being honest, what you’ve outlined sounds absolutely ****e:emoticon-0102-bigsm

It’s why I don’t get the sackcloth and ashes thing about this season being ‘our only chance’ either. Most importantly this is our second ‘only chance’ in the past three seasons. But another thing is that the PL sounds like an absolute chore. So while the club could ‘go for it’ and spend money it can’t afford for the chance to get there asap, I’m happy enough for us to concentrate on getting stronger in a gradual, sustainable way with confidence that we’ll get there in time. The whole win or bust mentality from the fans this season makes little sense - particularly from fans who are clear about how bad it’ll be when we get there. Hopefully this year is our year, but I’m not all that terrified if it isn’t. The most important bit of the whole thing is likely to be the fanbase’s reaction to the mentality switch.

It’s defo not our only chance mate. I agree we’ll have bedwetters who are moaning when we get beaten most weeks and it’ll be a bitter pill to swallow obviously but it’s better trying to progress than accepting being average forever because it’s easier.

We lose a few names for big money and we can sign players who make us better that’s a given. Yes, Rigg is probably the most talented English youngster since Jude if you believe the hype in the news.. but as of where he’s currently at, in my opinion anyway, he doesn’t even stand out in this division. There’s dozens of midfielders who are better. So selling him and signing a couple of solid additions we’d technically be better for now but that next jump into the PL is massive there’s just no scenario in my head where a team can be promoted from this division and stay up without investing heavily. Unless Man City get relegated through a points deduction :emoticon-0102-bigsm

Which is the sad reality of how money has absolutely destroyed the game, especially in England. Luckily for us, we’re a fairly big club with decent owners and a large fan base so I think we’ll get back to the PL and stay there eventually. However for most clubs in this division that’s not really a possibility without a mega rich owner coming in so for their fans it must be ****e knowing that you’re expecting the same pretty much every season.
 
Well said Rooch, I'd like to think I'm one of those decent posters.
Will I stick around after this season? Don't think so regardless of whatever league we end up.
Haven't posted much this last month or so as I'm sick of drowning in the plethora of the band of brothers on here who cannot see other than doom and gloom, but finish with the 'I hope I'm proved wrong' get out clause.
I made a simple comment a few days ago and was met with repeated attempts for me to justify what is said cos it didn't suit their agenda so I just gave up. When posters like Scout73 walk away some on here should be very worried about this site.
Been here since 2011 but can't see it lasting much longer.

If we all thought the same it wouldn’t be worth having a forum, that’s what they’re for to discuss. Every fanbase has glass half full and glass half empty fans that’s just the nature of the beast I’m not sure it’s worth letting it bother you. It does get lairy at times normally after a match when people are full of drink but I don’t think I’ve seen much go off lately that I’ve thought bloody hell that’s out of order.. There’s plenty on here I disagree with and vice versa but at the end of the day we could be stood next to each other in the stands having total disagreement about a player or something else club related and yet when the ball hits the back of the net that’s forgotten and we’d be celebrating together and that’s what’s important. Not an opinion on an online forum.
 
regarding your top point, it’s changed substantially since we were last relegated as new TV deals kicked in.

Also if you remember, the parachute payments we should have had were first used by Short to service debt and then used by Donald to buy the club, so the club never saw them.

This time round we’d get a lot more money to be used in the right way.
The numbers may have changed but,the point the lad makes is still valid.It isn't a given that promotion to the PL and subsequent relegation equates to another promotion the following season. i agree it seems that way with Sheff U and Burnley,but there are any amount for whom it hasn't.
 
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So why have we gone


Why take on investors? Our owner is a billionaire.

To bring more money into the club, so it's not all on him and Juan would be my guess. Depends if he's happy for the club to Yo-yo or whether he wants us to stabilise in the Premier. It's his choice.
I'll be very surprised if him and Juan sink a load of their own money into keeping us up. At least they'll not use the parachute money to fund buying the club though.
 
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Well said Rooch, I'd like to think I'm one of those decent posters.
Will I stick around after this season? Don't think so regardless of whatever league we end up.
Haven't posted much this last month or so as I'm sick of drowning in the plethora of the band of brothers on here who cannot see other than doom and gloom, but finish with the 'I hope I'm proved wrong' get out clause.
I made a simple comment a few days ago and was met with repeated attempts for me to justify what is said cos it didn't suit their agenda so I just gave up. When posters like Scout73 walk away some on here should be very worried about this site.
Been here since 2011 but can't see it lasting much longer.

I was wondering what had happened to Scout. I guess he must have walked away while I was on holiday. Shame, because he was a good poster.
 
Out of interest, what enjoyment do you get out of winning 4 games and drawing 3 out of 38 matches, watching the team get booed off every week, loosing your best players when we get relegated as they are to embarrassed
to play for your club and being left with a
s hit team that could probably get relegated to league one?

I'd like to progress as a club to the point where we can compete to stay in the Prem and eventually push further up the table a la Brighton, Bournemouth, Forest, etc.

Might not happen, but you've got to be in it to win it. It's definitely not happening without PL money / status, I'd rather take "maybe" than "no chance". Just doesn't sit right with me to give up on ever being a decent top team again, I think I'd get bored. A bit "what's the point?" if we're resigning ourselves to never being more than a midtable Championship club...
 
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Proper baffles me this whole 'don't want to go up' craic. Literally what is the point of supporting the club if you don't want to get as high as possible. Just proper baffles my head
I'm not saying I don't want us to go up, I'm just concerned what impact it may have on a young squad. Getting battered frequently will have an impact on confidence and value of the squad. I believe another year in the Championship would be beneficial. Another year winning more games than losing in my opinion would be of great benefit. I appreciate if we stay down we will lose a few players, but what's to guarantee these players will stay if we go up. It would be great if we could persuade the ELF to stay if we remain here, as he believes in RLB.
Another year down here, and sell 2 or 3 regulars could create massive fees. Buy next level players that maybe Premier ready next year. Just my opinion before I get told I'm talking rubbish (which I'm not, lol)
 
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I'm not saying I don't want us to go up, I'm just concerned what impact it may have on a young squad. Getting battered frequently will have an impact on confidence and value of the squad. I believe another year in the Championship would be beneficial. Another year winning more games than losing in my opinion would be of great benefit. I appreciate if we stay down we will lose a few players, but what's to guarantee these players will stay if we go up. It would be great if we could persuade the ELF to stay if we remain here, as he believes in RLB.
Another year down here, and sell 2 or 3 regulars could create massive fees. Buy next level players that maybe Premier ready next year. Just my opinion before I get told I'm talking rubbish (which I'm not, lol)
Hells bells, there is someone sane on this forum <ok>
 
I'm not saying I don't want us to go up, I'm just concerned what impact it may have on a young squad. Getting battered frequently will have an impact on confidence and value of the squad. I believe another year in the Championship would be beneficial. Another year winning more games than losing in my opinion would be of great benefit. I appreciate if we stay down we will lose a few players, but what's to guarantee these players will stay if we go up. It would be great if we could persuade the ELF to stay if we remain here, as he believes in RLB.
Another year down here, and sell 2 or 3 regulars could create massive fees. Buy next level players that maybe Premier ready next year. Just my opinion before I get told I'm talking rubbish (which I'm not, lol)
Hells bells, there is someone sane on this forum <ok>
Even two of us
 
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