Summer '24 transfer window
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There's desperate,really desperate.....and then this!
Plenty of other clubs signing players hassle free. If someone has an asking price and you meet it, and the player wants to come, why on earth would the club reject it? It’s because of the structuring of deals or offering less than they want that it stalls.
You’re right - but this is modern day football. If you’re in it to make money then you’re not going to get very far. If we had another striker who could do a job then we wouldn’t be in this position but unfortunately we don’t, and we’re desperate. Just pay the money and move on.
No other football club has ever wasted money on a flop if you didn’t know.. let’s stay in the championship for the next 5 years because we signed Will Grigg 5 years ago
Do you think the ****s up the road sat there thinking “should we really spend £60m on Isak when Mike Ashley wasted £10m on Yoshi Muto 5 years ago?”
No other football club has ever wasted money on a flop if you didn’t know.. let’s stay in the championship for the next 5 years because we signed Will Grigg 5 years ago
Do you think the ****s up the road sat there thinking “should we really spend £60m on Isak when Mike Ashley wasted £10m on Yoshi Muto 5 years ago?”
We bought Grigg in the january window of our first season in League One, it impacted our spending so much we spent the next 3 and half years in League One. If you really want us to get out of the Championship, you'd want us to be balanced and use our money wisely.
Tbf there has been multiple CFs that have went for a similar price to what we paid for Rusyn this window and are 5x better and have goals behind them in their careers. Are we spending wisely or are we severely restricted this window budget wise
Transfer fees don’t account for anything in L1 & L2? It’s just wage v revenue. Hence how Birmingham have spent £15m.. unless it’s changed in the last few years. We haven’t spent a penny this window yet so it’s not as if we’ve already splashed the cash across the pitch, our season boils down to have a decent 9 and pissfarting around is just playing with fire we really can’t afford to fluff this again.
Good business is about planning well, having set ideas of costs and where your limits are for spending, all the best businesses in the world use those kinds of practises, SAFC is no different, if we are refusing to pay the €4-5m or whatever it is they're asking for, it is because either the player is not worth it or we believe we can get a better deal, either from Caen or elsewhere.
What are you on about? We literally spent about 3-4 transfer windows worth of budget on one player which restricted us to free agents and nominal fees until the new ownership arrived. We spent all of the money.
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Worse still, the owners were bitten and became stingy.
FFP in L1 doesn’t account for fees spent on players… you just can’t spend above 60% of revenue of wages. We could’ve spent £4m on Will Grigg then went and spent £4m on another striker the next day if we wanted. The owners just didn’t have that kind of capital. What you CAN spend and what those clowns could afford spend is a totally different story. Are you saying if we went and spent £3m on Mendy the club would be crippled?
FFP only applies if you have the money to spend in the first place.
The club isn't being bankrolled, that's been made clear, it will work in the black, that means good business practice, not trumping transfer deals by an extra 50% to flex some muscle, or whatever.
An important distinction that needs to be made clear.
Let's say your owner is a multi-trillionaire, but runs the club in the black. Paying smaller fees and selling for higher fees. Is your club a cash-strapped poverty stricken organisation?
Let's say your owner is close to bankruptcy but has lots of loans and credit, the clubs still spend big fees on transfers. Is your club a wealthy, healthy organisation?
Let's say your owner is a multi-trillionaire, but runs the club in the black. Paying smaller fees and selling for higher fees. Is your club a cash-strapped poverty stricken organisation?
Let's say your owner is close to bankruptcy but has lots of loans and credit, the clubs still spend big fees on transfers. Is your club a wealthy, healthy organisation?
I do think either way we should be able to sign a striker in the 2-4m range. We need one to come in with men's football experience and goals behind them. If you look in other leagues in Europe 2-4m seems to be the range.
If we wanted a free one, we could have jumped on Devante Cole or Zan Vipotnik
All clubs are bankrolled, just because we’re aiming to be sustainable doesn’t mean KLD hasn’t or won’t put a penny in. We’ve still been operating at a loss since he took over but obviously this years accounts will see Stewart’s transfer fee added to our revenue so it’s likely we’ll break even or be slightly in profit. If we are struggling to stump up the cash then why are we knocking sizeable bids back for players? The money is there IMO we’re just haggling over the fee/structure and it has potential to bite us on the arse again. No excuse not to sign a striker this year and blaming the signing of Grigg under a totally different ownership is mental gymnastics mate. We’d never sign another striker again if that’s the case.
I don't have a problem with how the club is being run from a financial perspective, it's sensible. However there does appear to be a lack of awareness/sense when it comes to top targets whether that be a manager or striker ie putting all our eggs in one basket, at least that's how its coming across to the fans.
Should or could? I think we're looking to do good business, for Mendy, a 30 year old with, realistically, very little resale value, but a good track record, I think we would be prepared to spend up to the low end of that range (€2m), if Mendy was 25 I think we'd be happy to pay €4m, the problem is Caen would be looking for €7-8m if he was that age.
It all goes back to good business.
I think Mendy is our man, that's the one they want, and I think we'll get it on deadline day under our terms and not Caen's.
I hope you don’t seriously mean we should’ve went for devante Cole and that’s just an example
Or it could go very wrong and we keep our eggs in one basket and Caen don't budge and therefore we are stuck.
Plenty of strikers who are 24-28 out there in Europe scoring goals. Blackburn just signed two of that description, one of them had a good 1st half getting involved in creating a goal and the second one came on and scored.