Transfer Rumours Summer '23 Transfer Thread

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The B&S Fanclub said:
True...I recall, about five years ago, BBC 5Live doing a tv broadcast from say 7pm on deadline day to 11pm. All the big guns were in position, anticipating last minute megadeals. It turned out to be the biggest anti-climax of all time.. They spent four hours twiddling their thumbs, repeating the same crap and waxing lyrical about some blokes nobody had ever heard of going to the likes of Bolton Wanderers and Cheltenham. Waste of licence payers money.
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Remember it on radio rugby, We were hoping to sign Frazer Campbell but with about 5 minutes to go to deadline he signed for Spurs.
 
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Steven Toast said:
Hmm, no reply from my mate about Philogene.

I hate this, if it’s really about the buy back clause that’s holding it up then I’ll be ****ing annoyed. We’re negotiating about money for a player we haven’t even signed yet; get him signed, he can help us get promoted and then the fee can be a bit bigger than what we paid for him. If we’re trying to get promoted, then something like a future transfer fee shouldn’t be anything to worry about given how much money we’ll make.
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I'm assuming the hold up is based on both clubs having differing valuations of the player's potential value based on performance? Must be a bugger to sort that out when nobody has any idea how we'll he'll perform for us. He'll be our biggest fee for years so I'm not surprised we're being hopefully very careful over how it could play out for us, but without knowing the details of the clause it's impossible to say what's going on.
 
Benjo said:
I'm assuming the hold up is based on both clubs having differing valuations of the player's potential value based on performance? Must be a bugger to sort that out when nobody has any idea how we'll he'll perform for us. He'll be our biggest fee for years so I'm not surprised we're being hopefully very careful over how it could play out for us, but without knowing the details of the clause it's impossible to say what's going on.
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It wont be an issue just about the price we pay but more about how we pay it. Cannot see it being £5m up front for one moment, more like so much now and the rest in instalments depending if and when so many appearance have been made. Add to that the possiblity that we might need to sell someone to raise the first instalment.
 
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Is it just me who isn’t that fussed about this Philogene? I’m sure he’s a decent player but it sounds like we’re dropping £5 million on a kid who got the same amount of league goals and fewer assists last season than Longman did in the 21/22 season when he was on loan with us. Not saying Longman’s better at all but are there cheaper alternatives? If I remember correctly, we paid £750k for Longman on the back of that half-season when he got better goal contributions than Philogene did at Cardiff last season.

Just saying, £5 million is a lot for a Championship club with no parachute payments or big player sales to blow on one player. The whole buy-back thing seems like hard-nosed negotiating by Villa but at what point do we walk away and pursue other targets this late in the window?
 
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Steven Toast said:
Hmm, no reply from my mate about Philogene.

I hate this, if it’s really about the buy back clause that’s holding it up then I’ll be ****ing annoyed. We’re negotiating about money for a player we haven’t even signed yet; get him signed, he can help us get promoted and then the fee can be a bit bigger than what we paid for him. If we’re trying to get promoted, then something like a future transfer fee shouldn’t be anything to worry about given how much money we’ll make.
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Supposedly he was at the ground doing media today which lines up with your potential announcement. Not sure why it wasn't announced today though
 
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Kalman said:
Even with player sales this summer, I’m not sure how Chelsea are keeping in line with FFP. This summer’s sales don’t even cover last season’s buys for Chelsea, let alone this summer’s.
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They aren’t planning to. Boehly’s plan is exactly what he did with the Dodgers, spend before the ban comes.
 
Kalman said:
Is it just me who isn’t that fussed about this Philogene? I’m sure he’s a decent player but it sounds like we’re dropping £5 million on a kid who got the same amount of league goals and fewer assists last season than Longman did in the 21/22 season when he was on loan with us. Not saying Longman’s better at all but are there cheaper alternatives? If I remember correctly, we paid £750k for Longman on the back of that half-season when he got better goal contributions than Philogene did at Cardiff last season.

Just saying, £5 million is a lot for a Championship club with no parachute payments or big player sales to blow on one player. The whole buy-back thing seems like hard-nosed negotiating by Villa but at what point do we walk away and pursue other targets this late in the window?
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No. I posted the same reservations. As far as I can see he looks like the typical fast winger with tricky feet and little end product who promises so much yet delivers so little and ends up spending a career journey manning around 2nd tier clubs playing bit part but never quite managing to deliver consistent performances.

He looks exactly like that kind of player.
 
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Chelsea made a net spend of £527,600,000 last year and a net spend of £146,250,000 this summer. How are they getting away with it? There’s the ridiculous 8-year contracts to amortise the fee but I thought UEFA introduced new rules to limit amortisation to 5 years.
 
Kalman said:
Chelsea made a net spend of £527,600,000 last year and a net spend of £146,250,000 this summer. How are they getting away with it? There’s the ridiculous 8-year contracts to amortise the fee but I thought UEFA introduced new rules to limit amortisation to 5 years.
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The ones they got through before I think are ok. They're gambling that they can sell some of these assets down the line for profit or no loss
 
Amin Yapusi said:
No. I posted the same reservations. As far as I can see he looks like the typical fast winger with tricky feet and little end product who promises so much yet delivers so little and ends up spending a career journey manning around 2nd tier clubs playing bit part but never quite managing to deliver consistent performances.

He looks exactly like that kind of player.
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A bit like Cameron Stewart? Though I remember us signing him for about £300k from Man Utd. I guess that’s the market these days. A young player can have a half-decent season at a Championship club on loan with unremarkable numbers and is suddenly £5 million.
 
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