Transfer Rumours Summer '23 Transfer Thread

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Still?

Christ. "We never replaced Ashbee" is basically a meme at this point. Who was the Ashbee in 2013 I wonder.

There was Meyler, Corry Evans and a bit part Paul McKenna. Alex Bruce played in midfield for a while I remember too
 
We need someone like Ashbee in midfield. Most of the other clubs in the league have one; even the ones who play possession-based football like us.

West Brom have Yokuşlu, Luton had Nakamba, Brum had Bielik on loan last season, Stoke had Ben Pearson on loan from Bournemouth, Coventry have Ben Sheaf, Blackburn have Travis, Swansea have Fulton etc. etc.
none of those teams went up though? i do get your point about needing a nasty bastard in midfield though, were a bit too nice of a team
 
Meyler and Evans weren't afraid of a challenge. IIRC we pretty much replaced Evans with Livermore (and Cairney with Thudd) after promotion.

We also played Bruce in midfield when we needed to grind out away points
 
We need someone like Ashbee in midfield. Most of the other clubs in the league have one; even the ones who play possession-based football like us.

West Brom have Yokuşlu, Luton had Nakamba, Brum had Bielik on loan last season, Stoke had Ben Pearson on loan from Bournemouth, Coventry have Ben Sheaf, Blackburn have Travis, Swansea have Fulton etc. etc.

Not saying you're wrong but only 2 of those teams were playoff teams and I would argue the only good teams out of the ones you mentioned.

We do need a ball winner or a marshall in the midfield. I think people may be getting obsessed with the Ashbee architype of a big nasty ****er when players like you've mentioned in Nakamba exist who isn't necessarily in the same physical mould
 
Not saying you're wrong but only 2 of those teams were playoff teams and I would argue the only good teams out of the ones you mentioned.

We do need a ball winner or a marshall in the midfield. I think people may be getting obsessed with the Ashbee architype of a big nasty ****er when players like you've mentioned in Nakamba exist who isn't necessarily in the same physical mould

Yeah, exactly. Ben Pearson and Harrison Reed aren't the biggest but they're aggressive and great at winning the ball back.
 
Tufan is literally the midfielder you’re all looking for

Played his whole career as a defensive midfielder, even started his career at Right Back

Maybe we seen him in that role this season now his fitness has improved
 
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Is simons not a potential “ashbee”, all this fuss over more midfielders. He’ll be redundant at this rate

I like Simons a lot and see him being that type of player for us long-term but it's whether Rosenior trusts him enough.
 
Tufan is literally the midfielder you’re all looking for

Played his whole career as a defensive midfielder, even started his career in Right Back

Maybe we seen him in that role this season now his fitness is improved

When we signed him, I thought we would use him as a defensive midfielder tbh. I think he played a couple of games there under Shota and did well and was never used there again. Since then he's played as a #10, right-wing and up front.
 
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I like Simons a lot and see him being that type of player for us long-term but it's whether Rosenior trusts him enough.

Why do people keep saying this when we signed him to a long term deal half way through his loan despite not making many appearances? Rosenior clearly rates him.
 
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Yeah, exactly. Ben Pearson and Harrison Reed aren't the biggest but they're aggressive and great at winning the ball back.

With that in mind if the Max Bird rumours are true I can only imagine LR sees him as the long term successor to Seri. In reality we probably have Seri for this year and maybe next. Would not surprise me if we shift Doc and Woods out and bring in Bird and someone like what you mention
 
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Why do people keep saying this when we signed him to a long term deal half way through his loan despite not making many appearances? Rosenior clearly rates him.

Because he's still very young and it's a great move for the club long term.

Completely different question to ask whether he's ready to play a central role in a top 6 side (which is what we're aspiring for this year)
 
Why do people keep saying this when we signed him to a long term deal half way through his loan despite not making many appearances? Rosenior clearly rates him.

Rates him and trusts him to be our starting defensive midfielder for most of the season are entirely different. As you say, he's barely played for us during his short loan spell so I don't see why Rosenior will throw him in at the deep end all of a sudden. He'll play more this season coming but I would imagine he'll be eased into the side.

You could say he rates Callum Jones since he was offered a new three-year deal recently despite hardly playing. Doesn't mean he's going to be a crucial player for us.
 
With that in mind if the Max Bird rumours are true I can only imagine LR sees him as the long term successor to Seri. In reality we probably have Seri for this year and maybe next. Would not surprise me if we shift Doc and Woods out and bring in Bird and someone like what you mention

Here's hoping. Bird as a long-term replacement for Seri makes sense. Seri's not getting any younger and as good as he is, we need to prepare for a future without him.
 
Rates him and trusts him to be our starting defensive midfielder for most of the season are entirely different. As you say, he's barely played for us during his short loan spell so I don't see why Rosenior will throw him in at the deep end all of a sudden. He'll play more this season coming but I would imagine he'll be eased into the side.

You could say he rates Callum Jones since he was offered a new three-year deal recently despite hardly playing. Doesn't mean he's going to be a crucial player for us.

He played plenty while Seri was injured and didn't put a foot wrong.
 
Here's hoping. Bird as a long-term replacement for Seri makes sense. Seri's not getting any younger and as good as he is, we need to prepare for a future without him.

Its probably the case. I want to say it was Bristol away were they ran Simons in the Seri role and while he did a decent job and I thought he played well there was a lack of a killer ball that Seri was providing in prior weeks