Transfer Rumours Summer '23 Transfer Thread

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PLT said:
I think you have to first accept that injuries can happen. At best you can minimise the risk, you can't prevent them. If someone gets an injury or a reoccurrence that doesn't mean someone must've failed to do their job properly.

Hamstring tears are a bastard, they often reoccur. All you can do is strengthen as much as possible, but it might well still go. Same with any player coming back from a long time out, they often suffer follow-up injuries in the weeks after they return. People with Tetteh's physique often suffer with muscle injuries particularly.

People keep saying that Rosenior blamed himself for Allahyar's second injury, which is sort of true but it was a bit of a throwaway comment as part of a bigger answer where he actually explained that Allahyar had met every metric to show he was ready to return, all his fitness levels were there. What more can we do? Maybe he wouldn't have played three games in a week if we had other wingers at the time, but even then, if all the data shows he's 100% fit then he should theoretically have been fine to play those games, but a muscle can go at any time, particularly one that's gone before and particularly on a fast player like Allahyar.
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Of course injuries happen, but to shrug our shoulders and say the season we just had was bad luck is the naive thing to do, not the scrutinising of the medical staff I'm suggesting.
 
mauled1904 said:
So the ****ing Ausie halfwit has derailed another thread with his made up bollocks, so the last 5/6 pages are him ranting about injuries and who's to blame for the players we haven't bought yet!! We'll I'm guessing he's on about the players we haven't bought yet as this is the Summer 23 transfer thread.
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Wtf are you on about? I didn't bring the topic up, and I wasn't the only one discussing it. Piss off.
 
Ajbtiger said:
A quick summary of the last 5 pages. Nobody knows why our players keep getting injured or who's to blame...if anybody.
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Not true at all.
Syd told us as a FACT that it's the medical staff to blame and they should all be just "sacked off".
Problem solved.
(oh god, what have I just done).
ps I'm off out now, back in to watch TWS v Newcastle. Enjoy yourselves :emoticon-0105-wink:
 
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SydneyTiger14 said:
Of course injuries happen, but to shrug our shoulders and say the season we just had was bad luck is the naive thing to do, not the scrutinising of the medical staff I'm suggesting.
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No one's said it's just luck. As I've said, personally I think mistakes were made last summer which led to the injury situation. I think we signed players from a place with lower fitness standards and then had to rush them to be ready to play at Championship intensity without a proper pre-season to prepare them. I strongly suspect we'll sign far less players from Turkey this summer (if any) as a result.
 
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PLT said:
No one's said it's just luck. As I've said, personally I think mistakes were made last summer which led to the injury situation. I think we signed players from a place with lower fitness standards and then had to rush them to be ready to play at Championship intensity without a proper pre-season to prepare them. I strongly suspect we'll sign far less players from Turkey this summer (if any) as a result.
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I suppose I saw you saying "injuries can happen" as equating to something that we can't predict or manage. Again I look at Ally who played in the Championship the previous season as one who shouldn't have been impacted by any of the context you suggested, and even then with guys like Tetteh, that explains the initial injury not the second.
 
SydneyTiger14 said:
I suppose I saw you saying "injuries can happen" as equating to something that we can't predict or manage. Again I look at Ally who played in the Championship the previous season as one who shouldn't have been impacted by any of the context you suggested, and even then with guys like Tetteh, that explains the initial injury not the second.
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It's only my theory. In Tetteh's case, coming back from the first injury makes the second one more likely, it happens all the time. Same with Allahyar's second hamstring.
 
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hamstring injuries are one of the most common injuries in any sport with sprinting
its a huge muscle that goes through a huge amount of stress when a sprint is launched
 
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The mental impact of muscle tear injuries can’t be understated imo. Seen a few comments these last few months on match day threads complaining that Allahyar doesn’t take a man on anymore. Yes, it’s frustrating when a winger doesn’t take a man on and instead passes it back but given he knackered his hamstring sprinting full throttle for the ball against Burnley early in the season, I don’t think I can blame him for playing overly cautious.

Players with his physique especially often get muscle tears because they push themselves further than what their muscles are capable of.
 
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i wonder if there's any correlation with hamstring injuries and travel time
it'd need a vast amount of data collected and analyzed but i reckon due to the hamstrings size and purpose, pre workout conditioning could play a huge factor
sitting too much could impede bloodflow slightly, what was the workload like in the 7 days prior to the tear, how much driving
etc etc
 
PLT said:
It's only my theory. In Tetteh's case, coming back from the first injury makes the second one more likely, it happens all the time. Same with Allahyar's second hamstring.
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If it makes it more likely you'd think we would be extra cautious.
 
SydneyTiger14 said:
If it makes it more likely you'd think we would be extra cautious.
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It easy to say that with hindsight but when Allahyar got injured at Wigan, we were still very much in the relegation mix and he made a big difference.

Tetteh's similar in that we're a much better side when he plays so we wanted him to play as many minutes as possible. That's always going to increase the risk of injury
 
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SydneyTiger14 said:
If it makes it more likely you'd think we would be extra cautious.
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You can only be so cautious though. They have all the data on every player. If his levels and load and every possible measure show that he's fully fit, what more can you do? You could always wait another week and another week but you have to play them again at some point and they could get an injury in that game or in the weeks that follow.
 
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PLT said:
You can only be so cautious though. They have all the data on every player. If his levels and load and every possible measure show that he's fully fit, what more can you do? You could always wait another week and another week but you have to play them again at some point and they could get an injury in that game or in the weeks that follow.
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I think we should've just eased players back slower with minutes solely coming from the bench in the first few games/weeks. How they reintroduced Adama was fantastic.

It's all hindsight though so it's complete bollocks really. I suspect the injury record next year will be fine, as they'll get a full and tough pre season and hopefully plenty of pre season games too
 
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