Transfer Rumours Summer 2024 transfer thread

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As a reminder, this time last year we hadn’t signed Tyler Morton, Philogene, Scott Twine, Viniger tits or even Connolly.

Not forgetting most of the January transfers came in the final week.
Plus there wasn’t a euro tournament last year. I was listening to the Peterborough owner being interviewed on talk sport. He was saying it peed him off that he was getting criticised for lack of incomings so far.
He explained those playing in the euros haven’t returned to premier league clubs yet, so those younger players who won’t be involved in the first team squad have to stay around to fill the team in tours or friendlies.
 
No, not really.
And yes, that's true.
But that doesn't make it anywhere near ideal. I know it's been done to near death, and I'd say BB is a lovely set up for the academy, .....but .... Fleetwoods set up makes us look non league.

It really does. For context here's some others from the same reserves division:

Barnsley (training ground is top right, long building next to the 3G is a 250 seater stand.

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Peterborough:
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Plus there wasn’t a euro tournament last year. I was listening to the Peterborough owner being interviewed on talk sport. He was saying it peed him off that he was getting criticised for lack of incomings so far.
He explained those playing in the euros haven’t returned to premier league clubs yet, so those younger players who won’t be involved in the first team squad have to stay around to fill the team in tours or friendlies.

It's like I replied to oozkan - we may not be directly signing players who've been involved, but it delays the domino effect down the pyramid
 
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I read a bit of the Wigan board expecting the usual..5m, I'll drive him there myself but there's none of that, more hopeful of a sell on clause.

This made me laugh. I hope he's right, but I have a feeling he hasn't seen much of Greaves:

"I said at the beginning of the Summer, I would be happy to see Hughes sold, he's an unbelievable talent who is ready for the Premier League and will win a lot of caps for England. The last time we had a young player who came through the academy and just clearly had everything a top player takes was Baines back in 2002, these kind of players only come around 20 years or so.
He was superb in The Championship and looked far too good for that level and through loyalty at the club who developed him he stayed last season in a division well below his level. The season before last he looked a level above Greaves in The Championship, despite being 3 years younger and potentially leaving for around a quarter of the fee is dreadful, amateurish negotiating. The key is Charlie has that Championship experience which adds the mega bucks on.
Birmingham just signed a 24 year old centre half for almost 5m into League One.
We sold Dan Burn for nearly 5m at the end of the 2017/18 League One campaign, despite 12 months on his contract and was 26, that was the going rate 6 years ago for a much older player with less potential. The going rate for Hughes level players is around 15-20m nowadays, I'd have settled for 10m with a sell on, if it allowed us to rebuild the squad. However 5m is absolutely scandalous.
Very much up there with the Baines, Maguire, James type when they were young here, could see all 4 had something special. Hughes at 19 was better than Maguire was at 22 for us and looks how his career has panned out. 80m fee a few years back.

Hull have done astonishing business, signing a better player than the one they sold with a 13.5m profit. In January, Hull will be asking for around 25m for Hughes and the fact they got 18.5m for Greaves, means they would probably get that for Hughes, they are unbelievable negotiaters."
 
This made me laugh. I hope he's right, but I have a feeling he hasn't seen much of Greaves:

"I said at the beginning of the Summer, I would be happy to see Hughes sold, he's an unbelievable talent who is ready for the Premier League and will win a lot of caps for England. The last time we had a young player who came through the academy and just clearly had everything a top player takes was Baines back in 2002, these kind of players only come around 20 years or so.
He was superb in The Championship and looked far too good for that level and through loyalty at the club who developed him he stayed last season in a division well below his level. The season before last he looked a level above Greaves in The Championship, despite being 3 years younger and potentially leaving for around a quarter of the fee is dreadful, amateurish negotiating. The key is Charlie has that Championship experience which adds the mega bucks on.
Birmingham just signed a 24 year old centre half for almost 5m into League One.
We sold Dan Burn for nearly 5m at the end of the 2017/18 League One campaign, despite 12 months on his contract and was 26, that was the going rate 6 years ago for a much older player with less potential. The going rate for Hughes level players is around 15-20m nowadays, I'd have settled for 10m with a sell on, if it allowed us to rebuild the squad. However 5m is absolutely scandalous.
Very much up there with the Baines, Maguire, James type when they were young here, could see all 4 had something special. Hughes at 19 was better than Maguire was at 22 for us and looks how his career has panned out. 80m fee a few years back.

Hull have done astonishing business, signing a better player than the one they sold with a 13.5m profit. In January, Hull will be asking for around 25m for Hughes and the fact they got 18.5m for Greaves, means they would probably get that for Hughes, they are unbelievable negotiaters."

Clearly that guy hasn't read this board <laugh>

It's just fan myopia and impatience isn't it? Happens at all clubs.
 
Yeh I misunderstood.

I don't think either are ideal and I expect both to be replaced at some point but I would say McLoughlin is a bit better on the ball and more comfortable travelling with it (just though and certainly not great at it). I think Jones excels in most other departments but his speed of thought is a little bit of an issue for me.
Have you ever seen Macca play? There is no ****ing way he is better on the ball or travelling with it.
 
Neither are excellent on the ball. Jones is ok with a simple sideways pass, Macca is not to bad but I feel hes regressed with the emergence of Greaves. My worry is Jones needs a decent defender next to him or else he struggles. WalterBall might be difficult for any centre halfs we have.
 
Neither are excellent on the ball. Jones is ok with a simple sideways pass, Macca is not to bad but I feel hes regressed with the emergence of Greaves. My worry is Jones needs a decent defender next to him or else he struggles. WalterBall might be difficult for any centre halfs we have.

They both can handle themselves at this level. If they can't handle Walterball then maybe the problem is that and not them?

But it's a speculative argument at the moment. The proof will be in the pudding and all that.
 
Neither are excellent on the ball. Jones is ok with a simple sideways pass, Macca is not to bad but I feel hes regressed with the emergence of Greaves. My worry is Jones needs a decent defender next to him or else he struggles. WalterBall might be difficult for any centre halfs we have.
I posted a week or 2 back that I was slightly worried about jones