Suarez

[astro]

Wow I thought the Prime Minister comment was supposed to be a joke but they really did issue a statement.

#bigsociety

 

[Brooking]

Dont know if this has already been brought up but that mini judas defoe bit javier mascherano on the arm at upton park (west ham vs spurs ) the FA took no action even though it was caught on the tv, got to be some kind of presedence there i think. check it out on google.

All the Best
Brooking

 

[Jimmy Squarefoot]

Dont know if this has already been brought up but that mini judas defoe bit javier mascherano on the arm at upton park (west ham vs spurs ) the FA took no action even though it was caught on the tv, got to be some kind of presedence there i think. check it out on google.

All the Best
Brooking

True but the incident was spotted by the referee and he was booked.

FA rules state that retrospective action cannot take place unless the referee didn't see the incident.

 

[Jimmy Squarefoot]

Wow I thought the Prime Minister comment was supposed to be a joke but they really did issue a statement.

#bigsociety

It's madness - completely uncalled for.

 

[Foredeckdave]

Liverpool fans will continue to idolise Suarez, so that's hypocritical for a start.

Secondly, non United fans respect him as a professional footballer, not as a man, in the main.

That's a bollox argument Tobes. You can't separate the man from the professional footballer as they are one in the same entity.

 

[Bodinki]

total bollox mate, ask any pro which they would prefer, to get smashed in the leg by dangerous play or the nibble.

Mate, they dont get a choice! My only point was as a footballer you expect to be tackled, not bitten.

 

[Bodinki]

Wow I thought the Prime Minister comment was supposed to be a joke but they really did issue a statement.

#bigsociety

He didnt? FFS. Why are politicians getting involved in this ****. Have they nothing better to do? Like run the country.

 

[KingEric07.]

That's a bollox argument Tobes. You can't separate the man from the professional footballer as they are one in the same entity.

So you can't say someone is a prick but they are also good at their job ?

May have to re evaluate my boss

 

[Jimmy Squarefoot]

Interesting article with regards to the punishment that Suarez could face:

Luis Suarez could be handed severe punishment through misconduct loophole, says former FA Compliance Officer Graham Bean

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...former-FA-Compliance-Officer-Graham-Bean.html

Here is an extract:

Much has been made of the Suarez’s previous disciplinary offences but the FA is limited in this respect.

For example, the other biting incident in Holland, when Suarez was playing for Ajax, cannot be used against him as it was not under the jurisdiction of the English FA.

His previous record in England does not include any previous misdemeanours for violent conduct and so the FA is again limited as to how much emphasis they can place on his previous character.

Of course, there was the disgraceful racism incident involving Manchester United’s Patrice Evra and, whilst the FA disciplinary panel will take this into account, it is not a similar type of offence, i.e. violent conduct, and the impact on the penalty for his latest escapade will be restricted.

Despite this, I believe that the FA will look to make an example of Suarez and can see him getting a penalty which is at least double the norm

 

[Tobes]

That's a bollox argument Tobes. You can't separate the man from the professional footballer as they are one in the same entity.

I can separate them quite easily mate. I don't know Ryan Giggs & therefore don't have any knowledge of the mans character, aside from what I've read about him. What I read is that he spent years humping his brothers wife, which makes him a bit of a snake tbh. However, he's been a fantastic professional football who's going to continue playing until he's over 40 years of age in the toughest league on the planet & for that he gets my total respect as a player, not as a man.

 

[Foredeckdave]

So you can't say someone is a prick but they are also good at their job ?

May have to re evaluate my boss

But the prick still remains the prick even if he is good at his job. So Suarez is a fool and Giggs is a philanderer but they both play football

 

[Jimmy Squarefoot]

I can separate them quite easily mate. I don't know Ryan Giggs & therefore don't have any knowledge of the mans character, aside from what I've read about him. What I read is that he spent years humping his brothers wife, which makes him a bit of a snake tbh. However, he's been a fantastic professional football who's going to continue playing until he's over 40 years of age in the toughest league on the planet & for that he gets my total respect as a player, not as a man.

Makes him a bit of a snake? Wow - bit of an understatement.

 

[The artist JerryChristmas]

total bollox mate, ask any pro which they would prefer, to get smashed in the leg by dangerous play or the nibble.

Intent, means nothing to those who've been smashed, ask the player McManaman smashed in the knee, he was well pissed off even though the intent was not there, yours is a viewpoint of a person who's never been on the end of a bad tackle, I've suffered a few and would in hindsight have preferred a nibble any day

Not condoning Suarez, and if I was Ivanovic I would feel the same, but to try and say depending, a dangerous tackle is less of an offence is a comical farce of a defence of one's viewpoint

As I said before what would you say about biting on the pitch if this had been Rooney or Terry? You'd be all over that teams board like a rash calling them all the scum on earth.

Whilst you're right about leg breaking challenges doing more damage to a career than a bite we all know it's not just about that don't we. Tackling is part of the game but using your ****ing gnashers isn't. Maybe next time you'd prefer it if he just went around spitting at people as that's going to cause less damage than either a tackle or a bite

 

[Foredeckdave]

I can separate them quite easily mate. I don't know Ryan Giggs & therefore don't have any knowledge of the mans character, aside from what I've read about him. What I read is that he spent years humping his brothers wife, which makes him a bit of a snake tbh. However, he's been a fantastic professional football who's going to continue playing until he's over 40 years of age in the toughest league on the planet & for that he gets my total respect as a player, not as a man.

Nah Tobes. The 2 parts of his life cannot be separated. That is just an accommodation that you are making - it doesn't exist.

 

[Tobes]

Sheila Coleman (spokes person for the Hillsborough Justice campaign) not happy on twitter about the 'donation' of the fine money by Suarez.

How can he dictate where his fine money is to go? He's fined by the club, if they're going to make a donation then fine.....so I understand her being upset by the PR element of this tbh.

 

[astro]

Interesting article with regards to the punishment that Suarez could face:

Luis Suarez could be handed severe punishment through misconduct loophole, says former FA Compliance Officer Graham Bean

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...former-FA-Compliance-Officer-Graham-Bean.html

Here is an extract:

Wow, openly complaining that he doesn't have a history of violent conduct in England that can be used against him.

#definitelynotawitchhunt

 

[Tobes]

Nah Tobes. The 2 parts of his life cannot be separated. That is just an accommodation that you are making - it doesn't exist.

Sorry Dave but it does. I can rate someone on a professional level but not like their personality or their moral code. It happens every day of the week.

 

[KingEric07.]

But the prick still remains the prick even if he is good at his job. So Suarez is a fool and Giggs is a philanderer but they both play football

I'm not doubting that Dave but you can still respect someone for their achievements etc even if they're a prick

 

[astro]

Sheila Coleman (spokes person for the Hillsborough Justice campaign) not happy on twitter about the 'donation' of the fine money by Suarez.

How can he dictate where his fine money is to go? He's fined by the club, if they're going to make a donation then fine.....so I understand her being upset by the PR element of this tbh.

Agree with that, though I think Suarez was just being clumsy in his tweet (the English was poor) rather than trying to make PR of it.

 

[Super G Ted'inho]

Sheila Coleman (spokes person for the Hillsborough Justice campaign) not happy on twitter about the 'donation' of the fine money by Suarez.

How can he dictate where his fine money is to go? He's fined by the club, if they're going to make a donation then fine.....so I understand her being upset by the PR element of this tbh.

I would imagine that's to do with contractual agreements and possibly a tax fiddle too. If its class as a donation it can be taken before tax making it cheaper for the club.