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Suarez

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by InBiscanWeTrust, Apr 21, 2013.

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What would you like to happen now?

  1. Defend Suarez publicly, keep him

  2. Condemn Suarez publicly, keep him

  3. Stay neutral, keep him

  4. Defend Suarez publicly (for now), sell him in the Summer

  5. Condemn Suarez, sell him in the Summer

  6. Stay neutral, sell him in the Symmer

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  1. Thus Spake Zarathustra

    Thus Spake Zarathustra GC Thread Terminator

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    Well I'm not absolving him of any blame whatsoever, but I'm not joining an hysterical, self-serving lynch-mob upping the ante on any proposed punishment whilst deliberately ignoring any precedents of more lenient sanctions against their own players who've physically injured and/or threatened the careers of opponents.
     
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  2. Thus Spake Zarathustra

    Thus Spake Zarathustra GC Thread Terminator

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    I refer to my previous post about your, er, intimacy with United and its posters.
     
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  3. Daveunited

    Daveunited Well-Known Member

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    Balotellis stamp on parker

    <ok>
     
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  4. DayDoDoeDontDayDoe

    DayDoDoeDontDayDoe Well-Known Member

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    I am certain that most of the fans who go to the ground, would disagree with you, those fans that pay thousands of pounds and sacrifice other areas of there life and are there week in week out.

    Those fans still back him 10000%
     
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  5. Tobes

    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

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    Haha so you're supposedly condemning him, whilst quoting prevoius supposed precedents that are being quoted solely to try & suggest that what he's done is a 'lesser' crime?

    Give it 3 days & you'll be howling injustice, the faux condemnation will fade into nothing once the serious business of shouting about conspiracies starts
     
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  6. Sharpe*

    Sharpe* Senior Member

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    Come on guys enough bitching.
     
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  7. Tobes

    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

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    Do you speak for EVERY match going red then? Behave
     
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  8. Thus Spake Zarathustra

    Thus Spake Zarathustra GC Thread Terminator

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    Top prize for hyperbole of the night - comparing Suarez to Sutcliffe. <applause>
     
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  9. Diego

    Diego Lone Ranger

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    None of these other offence`s can pass on HIV, and before you say don`t be silly they are all healthy sportsmen, ask yourself why all the physios have to wear gloves.
     
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  10. gent

    gent Well-Known Member

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    We're just trying to lower his transfer fee as much as we can. <whistle>

    If he'd play for Arsenal I wouldn't care if he bit on people's extremities all day long.
     
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  11. Zingy

    Zingy #ziggywould

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    I didn't say that at all.

    IF he stays, we still need to do a hell of a lot more to contend with the top 4 anyway. Sort our defence out, strengthen our midfield... and become more consistent.

    If he goes then it will be a lot harder, we need to do the aforementioned. And find someone else who can score 20 plus a season. Highly unlikely imo. Think it's unlikely even with Suarez anyway, we are nowhere near good enough as a team.
     
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  12. Tobes

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    This event might make it more likely that he stays this summer, as he's soiled goods with yet another blemish on his already **** stained CV
     
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  13. Zingy

    Zingy #ziggywould

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    Don't think this will put teams off from wanting him. We knew about his 'blemishes' before he came to us. Didn't put us off from buying him. <ok>
     
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  14. Thus Spake Zarathustra

    Thus Spake Zarathustra GC Thread Terminator

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    Don't know how I can be more frank that i condemn his actions today, and he deserves the coming punishment he'll receive. Possibly played his last game for Liverpool, given that he'll miss the end of the season now. And don't pretend that for all your faux indignation that the first thought that crossed you mind wasn't that he'll now miss the derby. Yes, I do think it was a ****ing conspiracy that he got 8 games for the Evra business, based upon precedent and the evidence of what he he actually did. The FA wanted a head-on-a-stick because they couldn't get at Terry at the time, otherwise Suarez should have got a 3/4 game ban for using totally innappropriate language (even though his provoker should have too). But that's by the by.

    In this case there is no outside chicanery going on, apart from the FA's obvious and historic bias against Liverpool. but you are right that whatever punisment he gets I, and many, many others will read the FA report from cover-to-cover: firstly because they are inherently untrustworthy, and secondly because the game of finding the contradictions and inconsistencies is even easier than doing the Sudoko in the Mirror.
     
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  15. Lucaaas

    Lucaaas Well-Known Member

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    The fact is that fans of Everton, Man Utd etc are only bothered about Suarez because he is so good. If this was Joe Allen or Jay Spearing they wouldn't give a **** about it.

    They are trying to get us Liverpool fans to turn on him so that the club are forced to sell him. This bullshit people are talking about wanting Liverpool to get rid of him because he's a stain on English football etc is absolute rubbish. The fans of the very clubs that are condemning Suarez and urging Liverpool to get rid of him are the very same fans that tolerated the questionable behaviour of their players, past & present.

    And these people will claim, when questioned, that they were in fact urging their club to get rid of X player at the time, but we know that's not true at all. For example, if you put to a Man Utd fan that they didn't want rid of Cantona despite him kicking a supporter, they will claim they were disgusted by Cantona's actions and wanted the club to get rid of him, but if they DID want rid of him, why did he get a hero's reception in his comeback game? Its easy for people to claim in hindsight that they did want rid of X player, just so they can strengthen their argument now but we all know that no football fan would want a club to get rid of their star player if he's doing the business on the pitch, regardless of his misdemeanors on & off the pitch.

    As for Suarez, he will likely miss the rest of the season with a ban but anything over a 4 match ban and questions will have to be asked of the FA, especially in light of the fact they recently failed to punish McManaman for something that was much more dangerous than Suarez's bite. Who knows, he might get away with it like McManaman, and the FA will only have themselves to blame if he does, and that will surely mean the FA having to review the process of retrospective action, as it would be clear the current system isn't working?
     
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  16. DirtyFrank

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    Ahhh! The old "real" fan argument. **** can't argue with that one....except.....he spends your "thousands" in one week.

    The million "armchair" fans who paid their subscription stumped up the money (millions not thousands) to buy him. Without us, you'd never have seen him in the strip in the first place so don't come out with that "better fan" ****e. You want that? Fine, all us pretend fans will go away & you can sacrifice your money to watch the club in the 3rd division.....

    Maybe that's what's actually wrong with the game but hey, that's reality.

    Oh and its 100%: one hundred, all, whole.....over exaggerating the amount incorrectly doesn't make you more right.

    If you honestly think he should be forgiven anything & everything just because he scores goals or is talented or more likely because he's given opposing fans the opportunity to have a dig & so should be defended at all costs then please, don't talk about the special, superior ethics that our club & its fans have. Because you're throwing them out the window for the sake of a selfish arrogant prick who for all his apologies; his actions show he doesn't give a flying **** about you or our club. Now I'm not grabbing a burning pitch fork here but just how many times does a grown man get to behave in this way before other grown men say, quite simply, that's unacceptable?

    But by all means you keep enabling the behaviour that is allowing that media you hate to drag our clubs reputation through the mud yet again.

    I'm 100% sure that Suarez doesn't give one stuff either way.

    But silly me: I shouldn't let the media tell me what to think; I should let real fans like you tell me what to think.....
     
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  17. Sweats

    Sweats Sure Forum Moderator

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    I think Suarez is a vile ****e.

    I can understand the likes of DDDDDDDDDD wanting him to remain playing for you as rightly he is your best player by a country mile and you'd be unlikely to find a decent or even half decent player without European football next season.

    But I think the club is bigger than any player, he drags your club through the gutter week in week out with his constant cheating and other antics, he is an embarrassment to your once great club.

    I don't think he will ever change as a player and if it were my team I'd want my team making headlines for the right reasons not for the reasons you seem too most weeks..

    As to comparing it to cantona, he was banned for months not games and I for one thought the fan got what he deserved. Keane was a nutter but it was hangelands other leg that ended his career.. <ok>
     
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  18. Zingy

    Zingy #ziggywould

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    Wonder what FA action will be taken tomorrow then? We will have to wait till the judge decides after his team finish playing Villa tomorrow night. <whistle>
     
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  19. Thus Spake Zarathustra

    Thus Spake Zarathustra GC Thread Terminator

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    And just before i trot off to bed, here's the man himself who previously wanted Liverpool to get rid of suarez for kissing his wrist in a blatant attempt to wind-up Mansfield fans after his handball, and contrasted evil Luis with the saintlike Messi - until it was pointed out to him that messi has twice punched the ball into the net in La Liga, and also used the word negrito against an opponent.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...-clubs-reputation-by-getting-rid-8582021.html

    Be aware, lawton is a long-standing drinking buddy of Slurguson....
     
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  20. Thus Spake Zarathustra

    Thus Spake Zarathustra GC Thread Terminator

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    "and if it were my team"

    Well he's ****ing not, so **** off back to your own board and let us worry about what we should or should not want. Would be easier to stomach if such reciprocal musings from our fans were not promptly banned on your board.
     
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