suarez v evra

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Of course the irish are not a race.

How many races do you think there are terrif? 200 or so?

You are miving two very different things up. A race can be defined by genetics. I don't know exactly how many races are supposed to exist but you could probably Google it.

Racism can be defined as words, actions or attitudes that are expressly used to insult or intinidate others who do not belong to the same group as you. So calling a Catholic a left-footer, a Protetant a proddydog, a Frenchman a frog or a German a kraut could in terms of this definition be considered as a racial insult. The same must therefore hold true for the Irish.
 
You are miving two very different things up. A race can be defined by genetics. I don't know exactly how many races are supposed to exist but you could probably Google it.

Racism can be defined as words, actions or attitudes that are expressly used to insult or intinidate others who do not belong to the same group as you. So calling a Catholic a left-footer, a Protetant a proddydog, a Frenchman a frog or a German a kraut could in terms of this definition be considered as a racial insult. The same must therefore hold true for the Irish.

I think the word is discrimination.

Racism is a lazy way of covering all bases here. Racism simply refers to race.
 
Well you touched on it earlier, how do you define race, so the UN and in this country the EHRC include race, colour, descent,national and ethnic origin as reasons which it is illegal (and some would say immoral) to discriminate upon.

So discrimination.

Racism is a form of discrimination mind. Its lazy to use the term as freely as people do. Takes alot away from real racism.
 
Racism can be defined as words, actions or attitudes that are expressly used to insult or intinidate others who do not belong to the same group as you. So calling a Catholic a left-footer, a Protetant a proddydog, a Frenchman a frog or a German a kraut could in terms of this definition be considered as a racial insult. The same must therefore hold true for the Irish.

But not the spanish or pakistanis according to UIR
 
Are we thinking 3 game ban if guilty or worse?

5 game ban for Evra if found guilty of lying?

Could Suarez face something worse? A long term suspension, perhaps by the club as to gain leniency from the FA?
 
Has Bolton actually spat his dummy out and never posting on the Liverpool board again? In fairness people reacted to him the way they did because he came on here guns blazing towards scousers after a comment made by a Chelsea fan.
 
If Saurez had allegedly called Evra a frog would Evra have been insulted by that derogatory reference to French people and claimed he'd been racially abused?
 
Or the irish, or the british, or the french, or the americans or the welsh.....ok maybe the welsh but thats it.

I will say no more on the matter, we have ruined this thread and I blame you.

Matter closed/

What you blame me, not only for once again pointing out your ignorance but also your stubborn resistance to learning when people try to educate you.

Yes it's my fault<doh>
 
If Saurez had allegedly called Evra a frog would Evra have been insulted by that derogatory reference to French people and claimed he'd been racially abused?

well seeing as evera seems to be a whiny little ****e then yes.

Just out of interest the games when Evra was involved with racism claims, did utd win any of those? Not that I am implying anything mind, no no no.
 
well seeing as evera seems to be a whiny little ****e then yes.

Just out of interest the games when Evra was involved with racism claims, did utd win any of those? Not that I am implying anything mind, no no no.

2-0 v Liverpool in 2006 when 2 fans accused Finnan or racism. 2 deaf fans who could lipread.
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...es-Fergie-United-star-pays-Chelsea-brawl.html


The commission found that Bethell conducted himself in a 'disorderly fashion' and that his language 'had been abusive and provocative'.

Its alleged he called evra a ****ing immigrant
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And what?

Why did you leave this bit out of your quote

"But while Chelsea were fined £25,000 for the part their staff played in the controversy, the allegation of racism was dismissed."
 
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