Stats are funny old things, just checked which QPR manager has the highest win % - Dowie. Better than Warnock Better than any other QPR manger Cifuentes may well be the man to turn it around but I'm not convinced just because we are comparing him with Ainsworth It was a big gamble bringing him into a relegation dogfight I really hope he can get this bunch of players over the line
Wubba re this bit of your post, it's not surprising we can't defend corners when 4 of your outfield players are 5' 6" or less tall and are trying to mark players 6, 7 or 8 inches taller, it will only end one way....... that corner should have been punched away by Begovic as it was on the 6 yard line and he needed to take responsibility for it being 6' 6", he should be commanding that area....... Also it did look offside to me as the scorer looked to be beyond the last defender when the ball was headed on.......
Cifuentes is doing OK but not brilliant. But I’d rather him than our last group of managers for sure. There’s been many a manager who’s done absolute dog **** with this squad. He has got them into better form. The one thing I noticed since the new players came in was how they stood out - just tells me this squad aren’t good enough. That’s a lot of **** to shovel and sort out - wherever we end up at the end of the season. How many chances do these guys need to get out. It’s embarrassing. They should be embarrassed. The lack of go when they came out at half time was shameful. We move on to a tough game on Saturday (and I don’t even want to think about the March fixtures right now).
The form overall under Cifuentes has been lower-mid-table which is about par with this group of players. It’ll be not culling Ainsworth earlier that kills us. If we’d binned him in the summer we’d be moaning about how we have nothing to play for this season right now IMO.
It’s a fair point but you don’t have to be 6’4” to track a runner and that’s twice in two games we’ve been done at a set piece that way. Whoever that was on the back stick just switched off which is such basic stuff.
Actually I think it was Colback who had been tracking him initially, but then ball watched from the flick on and let the scorer gain a couple of yards for the tap in......
So do I, but I'm far from convinced. We're stuck with Cifuentes this season (and probably next) come what may, so there's no point in getting on his back at games, but I feel entitled to criticise him on here. Yes, we pass the ball more than we did under Ainsworth, but tonight was yet another example of how poor we are at getting the ball forward under him. We need to be more positive and that's down to the manager.
Supporting this team is like being married to a deranged schizophrenic. You never know what’s coming next. So exhausting, not sure I can live with being chained to the infuriating f***r anymore
It’s a tough one isn’t it. There have been a number of teams go through a free fall then pull up. Results have been all over so you can’t really see who’s going to escape right now. Look at Millwall at the moment. I could only see us getting another 14pts tbh - so 43pts doesn’t look enough does it
Apparently it’s not coaches who win games but players, and well paid players tend to be better than the cheap ones. This has been statistically demonstrated, it’s very rare that a manager/coach bucks the £ - the bigger spending clubs do better, whoever the manager is. Success is literally bought for most of the time (there are of course exceptions but these tend to prove the rule). These are the (estimated) wage spends of this seasons championship clubs. 1. Leicester City – £60,190,000 2. Southampton – £40,014,000 3. Leeds United – £39,513,000 4. Norwich City – £24,196,000 5. West Bromwich Albion – £23,060,000 6. Cardiff City – £19,444,000 7. Stoke City – £18,340,000 8. Watford – £14,952,000 9. Sheffield Wednesday – £14,584,000 10. Middlesbrough – £13,582,000 11. Birmingham City – £13,228,000 12. Bristol City – £12,894,000 13. Hull City – £12,333,200 14. Swansea City – £12,276,000 15. Queens Park Rangers – £12,020,000 16. Ipswich Town – £11,378,000 17. Preston North End – £10,942,200 18. Coventry City – £10,008,000 19. Millwall – £9,856,000 20. Huddersfield Town – £9,258,000 21. Sunderland – £9,150,000 22. Blackburn Rovers – £7,678,000 23. Rotherham United – £6,674,000 24. Plymouth Argyle – £6,060,000 So QPR are underperforming against the £ prediction. But if you only look at the games that Cifuentes has managed, we are at 13 in the table. I think that means, not that Cifuentes is great, but that Ainsworth was ****ing awful. It could also indicate that we are overpaying a bunch of crap players. Personally I think it’s a mix - we had a manager who actively made us a worse team, and lots of players in that team were/are overpaid. Anyway we were **** tonight, none of them should be paid for that performance.
Surely it's down to the manager to get the players - overpaid or otherwise - performing to the best of their ability? Cifuentes seems to get a free pass just for not being Ainsworth. I don't get it.
The argument is that the coach doesn’t matter that much for most teams for most of the time. The better your players the better you do and a proven proxy for player quality is what they are paid. Under Cifuentes we are performing to where you would expect according to what we spend. Most coaches would achieve the same. Under Ainsworth we were 7 places worse. That either means that he was crap or that we are spending too much on the players, or both. Of course we have a record for overpaying dross under Fernandes, Hughes and Redknapp. Has it occurred to you that the type of players who turn out for lower half championship clubs are by definition incapable of consistency, of performing to the best of their ability week in week out? That’s the reason they play at this level, they can flatter to deceive sometimes but can’t deliver always. Doesn’t matter who the coach is.
I don't think you're looking at the situation realistically. Stoke aren't a good side, they were ****ing dreadful. Unfortunately, we were even worse. We're going down.
No, that's seem to me to be bullshit. Why would the likes of Warnock be able to get what they do out of players 'incapable of consistency' if that was the case?
Well, I’d have to go back and see what the clubs he so successfully managed actually spent to answer that. He clearly can’t do it at the top level though, and as I said, there will be exceptions to the predictions based on wage bills, but those predictions offer pretty strong correlations to success. https://www.blinkist.com/en/books/soccernomics-en That’s enough for tonight, I’m up early tomorrow.
We're not far off the worst team in the division and we still can't create any chances or score goals. It's pitiful.
